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You're right Cypress regarding propelling a 2500# boat with a 150hp motor. Also, I would suggest doing more research on 2 strokes. Most boats are
now powered with 4 strokes.
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Ya, 4-stroke is in favor but the new 2-strokes meet all the CARB standards and are legal in California fresh water. The are also lighter and more
powerful. Direct Fuel/oil Injection.
A 150hp 2 might be equal to at 200hp 4.
Rain Forest recommends the 115 Merc 4-stroke.
I'm going to try and fish SQ this weekend. Tiburon has 2 boats I like. Both 26ft pangas. 1 with a 150hp and the other 200hp 4-stroke mercs. The 150hp
has a better flush deck so I'll try that if I can get it.
We'll see if that's enough power to charge the ocean for atun.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
You're right Cypress regarding propelling a 2500# boat with a 150hp motor. Also, I would suggest doing more research on 2 strokes. Most boats are
now powered with 4 strokes.
Ken |
Ya, 4-stroke is in favor but the new 2-strokes meet all the CARB standards and are legal in California fresh water. The are also lighter and more
powerful. Direct Fuel/oil Injection.
A 150hp 2 might be equal to at 200hp 4.
Rain Forest recommends the 115 Merc 4-stroke.
I'm going to try and fish SQ this weekend. Tiburon has 2 boats I like. Both 26ft pangas. 1 with a 150hp and the other 200hp 4-stroke mercs. The 150hp
has a better flush deck so I'll try that if I can get it.
We'll see if that's enough power to charge the ocean for atun. |
Yep! This is correct. If it says EFI (electronically fuel injected) and/or Optimax, it is even allowed on Lake Tahoe. They are new, more efficient,
leak less oil and emit fewer pollutants into the air. If you talk to marine shops, they are becoming preferred over 4 strokes.
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One thing that stands out in the Tohatsu that Fishbuck is considering is the variable idle, that should make for better control of trolling speed. I
have a 4 stroke 115hp Mercury, and I wish I could slow it down just a touch when slow-trolling live baits.
But another consideration is service. My Merc has needed warranty service (twice!), and while that's not good, at least there was a certified Mercury
mechanic in Loreto to facilitate the warranty claim.
Lots of discussion/arguments on the internet about 4 stroke vs. 2 stroke. They all good, modern designs. I think the 2 strokes seem to be lighter with
a slight edge in power, while the 4 strokes are quieter. Much of the good press 4 strokes has receive is from their comparison to older, carburated 2
strokes, not the new fuel injected 2 strokes.
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2 strokes are typically lighter and more powerful. They are allowed on most fresh water lakes. Maintenance cost is lower than a 4 stroke. Oil
usuage between the 2 designs is about a wash.
Where they fall short:
Most are noisier than 4's
They don't get as good fuel economy
With larger boats (21' and larger) the resale with a 4 is much better. (Check the ads on Hull Truth)
While it is hard to research sales numbers (at least for me), Several dealers that I have spoken to are in agreement that 4 strokes still command
60%-80% of new sales.
Just "test drive" the configuration yourself before you buy, try to have 2 or 3 buddies with you to approximate a full load.
Just my 2 cents
Ken
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Don if your motor won't go slower its an adjustment, my 40 Mec 4stroke idles so slow you wonder how it still stays running.
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Here's a little excerpt for a mag:
All things being equal, a DI motor costs less and accelerates noticeably quicker than a comparable four-stroke. As for sound quality, and contrary to
perception, DI motors register a few decibels quieter. It just doesn't sound that way. That's because a four-stroke V-6 sings a song at a more
harmonious frequency. Personally, I prefer the sultry voice of a DI two-stroke.
Today fuel economy on both DI and four-strokes measures from a 10 percent to 80 percent improvement, compared with the old two-strokes of a decade
ago, depending on rpm and load—cruising speeds figure on about a 30 percent improvement.
Ultimately the biggest difference between the competing technologies is acceleration. With a superior horsepower-to-weight ratio DI two-strokes zoom
onto a plane quicker. For some applications, like bay boats, that's crucial. But in the final analysis what's most important is the deal. As in buying
a car, it's vital to comparison shop. Determine which dealer offers the best prices and has the most reputable service department.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
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