Woooosh
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Rosarito residents unsettled by crime
Sometimes we nomads need to depend on each other to communicate what the media can't, won't or deoesn't want to know about.
This is about kidnappings/extortions in Rosarito Beach- so if you aren't interested, please don't read it.
My Mexican neighbor came to me for help becasue a man who identified himself by name and as a commandante for the AFO, telephoned him to demand 3
million peseos or his family would die. He knew their names, ages, addresses, and his bank accounts. As you can imagine- the family is beside
themselves.
If that's not bad enough, when they went to the PGJE to report the extortion the detectives woudln't even take awritten report. They were told the
police were too busy trying to recover the people already kidnapped in Rosarito to have time to prevent one from happening.
Not happy with that response, the family reached out to cousins until they found a commandante in teh TJ poilice wh would tel them the truth. He told
them it was not the AFO. The AFO only demands money in dollars, not pesos. He also said they do not call you- they intercept your vehicle, take you
for a ride and lay out their demands in person so you know there is no doubt about who they are or what they will do if not paid. He also said the
intelligence systems in the police to prevent and solves crimes is a myth- the narcos have more money, brain power and technology than the police
does.
I fell really bad for this nice family. The father hung up on the caller after calling him some choice words.. He isn't happy about someone demanding
what he worked his whole life for. It's very unsettling to know so many real, local mexican people are having problems with the narcos.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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bajaguy
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Sounds like these people need to hire the Seven Samauri.....
Not a joke. I think that if he was threatened, he should take it seriously. Either get protection or move his family.
What does this guy do to be a target????
Not to get on a rant, but the "victims" need to start taking some action against these slimeballs.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Sounds like these people need to hire the Seven Samauri.....
Not a joke. I think that if he was threatened, he should take it seriously. Either get protection or move his family.
What does this guy do to be a target????
Not to get on a rant, but the "victims" need to start taking some action against these slimeballs. |
I know it always turns back to the victim having done something out of the ordinary. All you need to be is breathing with a bank account and you are
a possible target right now. Their bank (banamex) hand delivers their ststements and the deliveryman just tosses their bank statements into their
yard. They think someone got a statement and then passed it onto someone else. (I told them to call the bank and switch to e-statements instead of
paper).
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Dave
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Then maybe it's time they started doing something about it
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
It's very unsettling to know so many real, local mexican people are having problems with the narcos. |
A more disconnected, uninvolved and fatalistic people I have never seen. 
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longlegsinlapaz
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
A more disconnected, uninvolved and fatalistic people I have never seen.
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Other than demeaning & belittling the guy & the Mexican people as a whole, do you have any constructive advice for him? He DID go attempt to
get help from two different police agencies & he sought advice from Whoooosh.
Your compassion for the Mexican people is truly underwhelming!
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boe4fun
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Maybe Dave was writing about the narcos?
Two dirt roads diverged in Baja and I, I took the one less graveled by......
Soy ignorante, apático y ambivalente. No lo sé y no me importa, ni modo.
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longlegsinlapaz
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There is that possibility, but it certainly came across to me as a slam against the Mexican people for continuing to "allow" whatever criminal element
to ride roughshod over them & their families; to perpetuate or condone through fear, intimidation & lack of action. His response implied
fatalistic acceptance to me. If I read it wrong, I'm sure Dave will correct my interpretation.
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Dave
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No, that pretty much says it.
| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
There is that possibility, but it certainly came across to me as a slam against the Mexican people for continuing to "allow" whatever criminal element
to ride roughshod over them & their families; to perpetuate or condone through fear, intimidation & lack of action. His response implied
fatalistic acceptance to me. If I read it wrong, I'm sure Dave will correct my interpretation. |
If Mexico wasn't such an insular society I might be a bit more charitable.
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Cajones
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The body count this week just jumped to 53 for TJ
It was at 47 a few hours ago.
If you add in Rosarito, Ensenada and Tecate, it'w well over 60.
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Nacional/04102...
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palmeto99
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They are just getting warmed up folks. As the DEA and the Mexican government start to tighten the noose, the narco terrorists will step up the
terror campaign against the people of Mexico.
Colombia had great beach communities years back. Wonder how those homes are selling there these days.....
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tjBill
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| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
Colombia had great beach communities years back. Wonder how those homes are selling there these days..... |
I was in Colombia this summer its now one of the safest countries in South America. And the most beautiful too.
You don't see many tourists though.
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dao45
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I wonder if the same thing was happening in the US .what people would do?
Of course in some areas it is forgot about that
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Cajones
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Running gunfight in progress on bulevar Insurgentes, TJ
It may still be going on. They're up near Parque Morelos.
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Other than demeaning & belittling the guy & the Mexican people as a whole, do you have any constructive advice for him?
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Nothing like the stifling level of American cultural arrogance to surface at just the right time. Americans advising Mexican residents on how things
work in their own country. Never stops does it?
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Dave
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Advising?
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Americans advising Mexican residents on how things work in their own country. |
Hardly. I would never presume to advise any Mexican about anything.
Ever. 
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Americans advising Mexican residents on how things work in their own country. |
Hardly. I would never presume to advise any Mexican about anything.
Ever. |
I was clear on your position, Dave. My post was directed at legs who thinks that American expertise and persepctive is what Mexico lacks. Yeah,
right.
American advice for Baja is often wrong, but never uncertain.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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