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Bob and Susan
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"I just don't see dragons much in Baja..."
i see them everyday
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Bob and Susan
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martha and susan went "outback" yesterday to collect a few fruit...
the fruit seems to me to be kinda bland and kiwi like in texture
susan is allergic to them....
lost her voice
no more Pitaya for you!!! 
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Diver
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Back to the question and added details not asked for ...
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Making an argument out of nothing again, child.
Just have to force your "opinion".
To justify your earlier post.
No one else can be right.
You have to have the last word.
Just have to be "right".
Have a nice "childish" day.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
the fruit seems to me to be kinda bland and kiwi like in texture
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That was my impression, also, after trying one in your area. I just don't understand the excitement this fruit generates. Perhaps some of them are
just tasteless.
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There are aparently 2 types in Baja, one is sweet and the other is sour. I haven't tried the sour type so I'm not sure how sour they are. I really do
look forward to Pitaya season down South. The fruit we get around El Triunfo is pretty sweet, I wonder if the fruit from further North might taste
different?
We have a lizzard at our condo like the one Bob and Susan pictured. He seems to be fond of the pitaya's also.......
Heading South on Friday, keeping an eye on Norbert......Baja calls........dt
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some are sweeter than others...locals here prefer the ones that are split open already...they are sweeter. I LOVE em...and they pack a power punch!
and they stain your lips red which is kinda sexy!!!
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Jack Swords
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For more information on the "Dragon Fruit" which is the Asian name for the epiphyllum Hylocereus originating in Central America see http://www.geocities.com/wenjin92014/foto2001/dragon.htm
The Baja pitaya is a Stenocereus (both dulce and agria, which is not sour) which grows in the ground, whereas the Hylocereus is an epiphyte and grows
in trees, etc. The "Dragon fruit" cannot take the hot dry weather as it is a jungle type plant. The fruit and flowers are very different and these
have become a profitable fruit crop in some parts of the US and in Asia. These fruits can be found in our supermarkets. The California Rare Fruit
Growers just had a statewide convention in Fullerton and many many varieties of the Pitaya (Spanish:Central America) or Dragon Fruit (Asian term for
Central American plant imported and grown in Asia) were available to taste and procure cuttings. Pitaya is a common name for many genera and species
of cacti with elongated columnar stems. In Baja we have both types of pitaya (dulce and agria), and 4 "pitayitas" one of which is the snake cactus or
hanging cactus found up in Sierra de la Laguna.
There, isn't that more than you ever wanted to know? Sorry!
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David K
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Thanks Jack, as a much better plant expert than I, it is greatly appreciated to see your input on the subject. 
Be warned that those who have other agendas may jump on you for validating what I attempted to explain earlier!
Adding to the knowledge of Baja fans is always welcomed here (I hope)!
Thanks!
One of the many photos in the links Jack provided shows the dragon fruit (no spines) and the vine that does not root to the ground:

[Edited on 10-8-2008 by David K]
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
"I just don't see dragons much in Baja..."
i see them everyday |
Point taken! 
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pitaya margaritas
Ok...so lets get out of the sandbox and back to the point of the thread...how to prepare these luscious fruit.
LIKE THIS and share it with someone who digs it!
repeat as often as necessary..
world famous pitaya margaritas! yummy
(good thing we are stocked up for "Norbert"!!!)
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So Shari, what's the recipe?...dt
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The caretaker at the Cactus Sanctuary told me that in his nearby town of El Rosario they are 'famous' for woven baskets and for their pitaya dulces.
I'm not entirely clear on the details, but the pitaya dulces seem to be made the same way as the mango dulces in San Bartolo.... cooked for long
periods of time in a big caldron over an open fire. Sometimes sugar is added - and I'm uncertain how they get the candy to 'set up' in the molds, but
it does. When finished it looks like those little maple syrup candies from Vermont. And let me tell ya - if mango dulces are extra sweet (they
are!), pitaya dulces are waaay over the top. Too sweet for me, but the caretaker's eyes lit up and he nearly drooled when talking of them.
btw.... This El Rosario is south of La Paz, just inland a bit from El Triunfo.
Nena
[Edited on 10-9-2008 by Natalie Ann]
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Pitahaya
Even more extraneous info on the Hylocereus group of cactus fruits known as ptahaya or pitaya or dragon fruit (not called the latter anywhere in
Mexico that I know of). This URL is to an article on Baja Trekker about conservation of land through pitahaya use among the Masiaca Indigenous
Community in Pitayal, Sonora.
http://www.bajatrekker.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=735
And yet more dead thread hijacking:
This Hylocereus undatus bloomed in mid July. The flower was wide open at 11PM, starting to droop at 2AM, and completely shriveled shortly after
sunrise. I ate the fruit today. Juicy and sweet but otherwise pretty boring.
Dragon fruit/Hylocereus undatus


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David K
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That is a GREAT photo of the OTHER kind of Pithaya (not native to Baja), known as 'dragonfruit'! Note there are NO SPINES, as it is NOT from a cactus!
The Baja Pithaya/ pitaya, etc. is VERY delicious... not a bit boring to eat!
Thank you for sharing the photos!
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Dragon flowers
These 16 flowers opened on a dragon fruit plant last night. You can see some of the dead ones that bloomed the night before — only 11.

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Beautiful plant!
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spectacular flower show !
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
i understand oct-sept is harvesting time for pithaya the catus fruit...
how is it BEST prepared??? 
there are lots in the "backyard" here |
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Neal Johns
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If you end up with cactus fruit with glochids (fine, hair like splines), the easy way to remove them from the fruit is to place them in a PAPER sack
with some sand and shake it. Do not place the sand in the sand box. 
Not the cat box, either.
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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