David K
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1927 Auto Club Map
From the border to El Rosario (almost)!
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David K
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Yes, the Mexicans changed the spelling from San Quentin to San Quintin and from (Cape) Colnett to Colonet... Tia Juana to Tijuana.
The Hamilton Ranch was on the east side of Colonia Guerrero... not near the ocean as the map shows.
Of interest some of the railroad line from the Old Mill is shown...
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"Santo Domingo Mission Ruins" just east of the Hamilton Ranch????????? I have never seen those-------
David, is there anything there at the "ruins" site??
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yes, the Mexicans changed the spelling from San Quentin to San Quintin and from (Cape) Colnett to Colonet... Tia Juana to Tijuana.
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And someone might even believe it.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yes, the Mexicans changed the spelling from San Quentin to San Quintin and from (Cape) Colnett to Colonet... Tia Juana to Tijuana.
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Yah, the San Quintin/ San Quentin thing is a little odd, I have seen it spelled the current way on old maps, so it may be a mistake on the auto club's
part... Colnett was a sea captain, and yes that was changed by locals... and you know how Aunt Jane 'Tia Juana' morphed into today's Tijuana!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
"Santo Domingo Mission Ruins" just east of the Hamilton Ranch????????? I have never seen those-------
David, is there anything there at the "ruins" site??
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Hi Barry,
Yes, the adobe ruins have been stabilized and worth a visit... less than 5 miles from Hwy. 1 on a wide graded road... See our photos following a visit
with the Humfreville's at their L.A. Bay home in Oct., 2005: http://vivabaja.com/1005/
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
and you know how Aunt Jane 'Tia Juana' morphed into today's Tijuana! |
Not quite, what was known as Tia Juana was actualy in California, norh side of the Tijuana River in what is now San Ysidro.
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David K
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Where did the word Tijuana come from if not from Tia Juana?
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The most accepted theory, according to historians is from the kumiai Ticuan or Llanticuan that makes reference to the mountain to the east of the city
known as Cerro Colorado and that in theire native tounge meant turtle laying down. Reference to this can be foud at the Mision de San Diego de Alcala
archives from the first baptism records. Tia Juana was the name of the southern most town in California (San Ysidro) and what is now Tijuana was known
as Rancho Tijuana.
http://search.blossom.com/geturl?&o=0p&i207&KEY=...
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Ferna, very interesting information you have here. Thanks.
Bob H
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Oh, and the Tia Juana theory (never prooven) was that an old lady named Juana had a restaurant were travelers would stop and have a good homemade
meal. No proof has ever come from that theory, maybe the first priests at San Diego called it that because it was easier to understand? No one knows.
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David K
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Thanks Ferna...
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Thank you for the maps.
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I was curious looking at the Auto Club map and decided to find and drive the old road from San Quintin to Colonet. I talked to some of my neighbors in
the area who had grown up there and were familiar with the old road. One offered to be my guide a few days ago and we spent several hours tracing its
path. A few parts of the old road are no longer passable but for the most part you can still make the trip with a few detours. Hamilton Ranch and
Johnson Ranch were both located east from the old "highway" but there were popular stops along the road that carried their names where one could get
gas, food and lodging. The Hamilton ranch is still in operation. Here are some photos I took...
[Edited on 11-29-2008 by BajaGringo]
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GREAT!!!
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