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SS payment issues surfacing in San Felipe?
Supposedly affecting El Dorado Ranch and other developments. Anybody heard more than this?
http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/news/index.html
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flyfishinPam
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OWWW that is BAD. Whatever property that is it is in process of being taken away (repo-ed) because the requirements of social security weren't met.
They need a lawyer fast.
edit: there is no registro patronal listed or whited out on that notice which tells me that (gulp) maybe they never registered the work whatever it
was. 
[Edited on 12-12-2008 by flyfishinPam]
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desertcpl
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we have good friends that have a home in El Dorado ranch,, I emailed them about this last week,, they are here in yuma now,, will be going down
sunday,, they said they might not be affected as the construction on there place was done by the ranch,, guess we will find out in a few days
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Riom
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This is the latest part of a long-running saga - not just at El Dorado but also at other developments in the San Felipe area.
A few years ago (during the building boom) there was a problem with some contractors not paying the Social Security for their works, and some cases
where they opened a single job for multiple constructions (so that it was hard to know which building the SS was paid for).
This has mostly been improved recently, but IMSS are going around tidying it up. Which means in some cases they are going after the owners, after
chasing the construction companies without success for years.
However, in their efforts to chase any owed money some mistakes are being made.
Some owners who are fully-paid up (have their letter of liberation) are getting further demands, perhaps because the SS wasn't registered to their
construction properly. In some cases, there are also differences between the size of the building given on the letter of liberation, partly because
the accepted way to measure it has changed.
What's worse, IMSS are supposed to have been computerising this recently, and in the process appear to have lost a lot of paper records. So they're
showing jobs as unpaid, when in fact they've already issued letters of liberation for that job.
El Dorado Ranch has been helping provide SS with a copy of their missing records, where possible, and contacting owners to get additional copies of
their letters of liberation. But there have been some cases for whatever reason it has not been possible to contact the current owner (recent resales
are one example, where communications go to the old owner). Those are the cases where the "embargo" notices have gone up.
This is not (all) for places where money is owing - it's also for places where IMSS have misplaced their records. So the owners of these properties,
knowing that everything is up to date, would have no reason to suspect the records had since been lost.
As this is part of an audit process, even for some properties where payments are fully up to date (and have been for years), the IMSS are not removing
the "embargo" notices until the house has been (re-)measured. They might find a bit more money that way if they now measure it differently.
The real concern is that even a house where everything is correct can get a notice like this, essentially due to a clerical error. When nothing is
owing.
BTW, the photo of the notice they use has had the details of the property blanked out, the actual notices do show the name of the owner (at the time
the house was built), or the contractor.
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Dave
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What if one decided to build on his own. Would you still need a release from IMSS? And if so, how would you prove that you did the work?
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