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[*] posted on 1-5-2009 at 07:30 PM


Jack, it's already exposed.

Oh I give all the folks kudos for helping bring forth historical and important places, but my point was more directed at the notion of possible historical artifacts that don't belong on your mantle.
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"I'm on my way down there right now with 45 treasure seekers. I guess it's ok. " You guys would have no prob with that?




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[*] posted on 1-5-2009 at 08:17 PM


Sharks----------yes, that would be of great concern, but it ain't going to happen if history can be our guide.

Even the "super sites" of Utah haven't attracted THAT much attention, tho they certainly are impacted from time to time by the bad guys-----less now than in years past, and that Anasazi stuff is REALLY valuable on the overseas market.

I guess the point I am trying to make is the relativity of it all----------is it really worth keeping all this stuff "secret" to prevent the occasional impact of bad guys? I don't think so. The value of just going there to the general public is a "value" too, and I think that value is more important.

It certainly can be argued, tho, and that is what we are doing. :yes:

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[*] posted on 1-5-2009 at 08:26 PM


L.A. Bay (and all of Baja) is 'dead' and needs tourism... If the normal draw to Baja (fishing, beaches, food, people, off roading, sailing, swimming) isn't doing it with the narco-terrorism and bad economy going on, then how is an old rock wall on a steep mountainside going to suddonly bring tourists down?

Seriously, this sort of thing has a real limited attraction... and those of us who love old ruins are HIGHLY respectful of their value and assign importance to them.

Too often an important site will be plowed over or destroyed to grow peppers or build a resort... as a whole lot more people will get some financial gain out of that!




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[*] posted on 1-5-2009 at 08:34 PM


You call it argue. I prefer "constructive criticism". That's where the phrase "exploring new territory" comes from. We personally just don't find that many missing missions anymore and when we do, thinking should be done!;D;D

David, I think a preliminary sweep for loose "stuff" should be done by someone in the field first. We may learn something very interesting.:wow:




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[*] posted on 1-5-2009 at 08:47 PM


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David, I think a preliminary sweep for loose "stuff" should be done by someone in the field first. We may learn something very interesting.:wow:


How do I know if that hasn't already been done?

They have had 43 years to perform a sweep... Let's just say they have, the cave and site was void of any pottery or arrowheads. Now, other history buffs who wish to drive 440 miles from the border, climb a steep cliff, etc. to see an old wall and empty cave have something to spend money in Mexico on, to do!:light:




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David, I think a preliminary sweep for loose "stuff" should be done by someone in the field first. We may learn something very interesting.:wow:


How do I know if that hasn't already been done?

They have had 43 years to perform a sweep... Let's just say they have, the cave and site was void of any pottery or arrowheads. Now, other history buffs who wish to drive 440 miles from the border, climb a steep cliff, etc. to see an old wall and empty cave have something to spend money in Mexico on, to do!:light:


:lol:OK David, to heck with science!:rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 1-5-2009 at 08:58 PM


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:no: Bummer that the truck door is missing. I loved that piece of green road art. It's probably someone's yard art now. Too bad. It's monuments like the door that give the off the beaten track dirt roads a little extra character.


Paulina, you are soooo weird.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

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[*] posted on 1-5-2009 at 09:41 PM


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Bummer that the truck door is missing. I loved that piece of green road art. It's probably someone's yard art now. Too bad. It's monuments like the door that give the off the beaten track dirt roads a little extra character.

[Edited on 6-1-2009 by Paulina]


Paulina, I totally agree with you. After all, in Death Valley part of the fun of exploring is visiting "Tea Kettle Junction" and "Crankshaft Junction", both adorned with appropriate artifacts like the "door".

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[*] posted on 1-6-2009 at 11:06 AM


bump-----------to get it closer to it's brother posts.
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Bump to bring together...



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