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[*] posted on 3-31-2009 at 05:54 AM
Rebuttal To Mayor Torres and Response


http://www.mexidata.info/id2209.html

Monday, March 30, 2009

A Rebuttal to Allegations of Misleading U.S. Media Reporting on Mexico

Letter to MexiData.info:

As a rebuttal to Mayor Torres' allegations of misleading U.S. media reporting on Mexico (Murder by the Media: What Misleading News Coverage Is Doing to Mexico, by Hugo Torres, MexiData.info, March 23, 2009), he should consider that the Mexican news media shows the same bias towards events in the United States. I would like to show you two different reports of the same incident that occurred March 26 in El Cajon, California. One is as it was reported by the San Diego Union-Tribune, and the other is how the exact same incident was reported by Frontera, the large Tijuana daily newspaper.

First the San Diego Union-Tribune article:

Police shoot and kill man wielding knife

By Kristina Davis and Angelica Martinez
March 27, 2009

MOUNT HELIX – A man armed with a large knife was shot dead at a busy intersection just outside El Cajon Friday afternoon.

Police said they received a call about a man carrying a knife similar to a hunting knife just after 11:50 a.m. near Chase Avenue and Avocado Boulevard in El Cajon.

The man was running around with the knife and waving it around, police Lt. Steven Shakowski said.
The area is near businesses and police had a concern for the public's safety, he said.

Several officers investigating the call followed the man and surrounded him at one point near Avocado Boulevard and Fuerte Drive, just south of the city limits. The intersection is expected to be closed for several hours. Police said they used a Taser on the man and also fired four bean bags to get him to comply. They eventually fired their weapons at least six times, fatally wounding the man, Shakowski said.
The reason why the man was armed and waving the knife is not known, police said.

Henry Martinez, a witness who was stopped at a red light at Avocado and Fuerte, said the man appeared tired and was almost stumbling.

Martinez said he didn't personally feel that the man posed an immediate threat to officers.

He said he heard multiple shots fired.

Police said all the officers involved in the shooting are seasoned veterans of the department.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/mar/27/bn27ois13...



And now for the same incident reported in Frontera (translated by me):

Citizen dies at the hands of the police in SD

El Cajon, California (PH), March 27, 2009

A subject who committed a traffic violation and would be fined died after being shot by police officers in the city of El Cajon, in eastern San Diego County.

The subject, who is unidentified, was driving around 12:00 pm today, Thursday, on Avocado Boulevard near the corner of Fuerte Drive when he committed a traffic violation which would cause him to be ticketed by the police, but according to preliminary reports he became involved in a heated discussion with the city police.

The incident escalated to the point where the officers opened fire, killing the subject, fortunately there were no others injured.

Members of the Sheriff's Department are also involved in the investigation of this incident.

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/27032...



Well, Mayor Torres, just who is distorting the news?

Tomás García

March 27, 2009

Mr. García lives in the North County area of San Diego, California

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MexiData.info note: In response to Mr. García's "rebuttal," Ron Raposa, the International Public Relations representative for Rosarito Beach, responded as follows:

Mr. Garcia's e-mail touches on several issues, not just distortion.

The Frontera report as translated by Mr. Garcia leaves out some key pieces of information (including the knife) that should have been in the story. I cannot tell if this is bad reporting, bad editing, bad translating or a combination. I doubt that Frontera actually had a reporter covering the story. Media are full of such mistakes and will be more so as their budgets shrink.

Could Frontera have a bias against U.S. police? Maybe, but I'd have to see more examples to conclude that.

What we are criticizing in much of the U.S. media is an ongoing tendency to distorted, unfair, incomplete and imbalanced reporting. It continues to link violence and crime against visitors to the drug war, without supporting evidence -- in fact with ample evidence to the contrary.

Part of this is due to lack of analysis on the part of media, part because some are blindly following an established (and incorrect) story line, part because a sensationalized and inaccurate story can get more attention than a fair and accurate one, part because of anti-Mexico bias.

Whatever the reasons, it is wrong and is being done by major U.S. media outlets that have the resources and should have the responsibility to do better. Mistakes are unavoidable in journalism, because it is so fast-paced and so much information is processed. Trends of biased reporting (on either side of the border) are avoidable and unacceptable. They and the huge damage they cause are what we are complaining about.

Ron Raposa

March 28, 2009

Playas de Rosarito, Baja California
http://www.mexidata.info/id2209.html



[Edited on 3-31-2009 by CaboRon]




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[*] posted on 3-31-2009 at 09:09 PM


As you know, Ron, interpretations are subject to the interpretations of the interpreter.
I think we can all surmise our own interpretations.




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[*] posted on 3-31-2009 at 10:45 PM


The cat........
At one point or another, all media are guilty of this phenomenon.
It all depends on how they (the media) want to portray the issue.
To be complete neutral, or objective is the chalange for everyone involved.




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[*] posted on 4-1-2009 at 04:43 AM
Two things


Ron Raposa is a really nice guy who is just trying to do his job.

The U.S. media dumps on Mexico. They do it partly cause they can and partly cause they don't give-a-s**t. I don't even think they give it a moment's thought.




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[*] posted on 4-1-2009 at 08:23 AM


Thank you for the interesting responses ....

I am not taking one side or another .....

However, I did think that it stimulated thought and dialogue on these matters.

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[*] posted on 4-1-2009 at 09:11 AM


I've never understood these "yeah - but you guys do it too" arguments.

What's more important to me is that the mexican press is much more gruesome in it's reporting on events in Mexico than the US press reporting on Mexico.

So why doesn't Mayor Torres take on the mexican press?

The answer might be that as mayor of Rosarito his town would benefit by the US press toning down it's reporting of events in Mexico.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2009 at 04:59 PM


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Originally posted by Eugenio
I've never understood these "yeah - but you guys do it too" arguments.

What's more important to me is that the mexican press is much more gruesome in it's reporting on events in Mexico than the US press reporting on Mexico.

So why doesn't Mayor Torres take on the mexican press?

The answer might be that as mayor of Rosarito his town would benefit by the US press toning down it's reporting of events in Mexico.


I'm sure Mayor Torres is also protecting his Rosarito Beach Condotel project to whatever extent he can at this point.




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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 07:44 AM


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Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote:
Originally posted by Eugenio
I've never understood these "yeah - but you guys do it too" arguments.

What's more important to me is that the mexican press is much more gruesome in it's reporting on events in Mexico than the US press reporting on Mexico.

So why doesn't Mayor Torres take on the mexican press?

The answer might be that as mayor of Rosarito his town would benefit by the US press toning down it's reporting of events in Mexico.


I'm sure Mayor Torres is also protecting his Rosarito Beach Condotel project to whatever extent he can at this point.


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[*] posted on 4-3-2009 at 10:05 AM


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Originally posted by udowinkler
As you know, Ron, interpretations are subject to the interpretations of the interpreter.
I think we can all surmise our own interpretations.


Interpreting interpretations, especially without a good interpreter to interprate for you, is hard work.

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