BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Tighter Rules for Returning U.S. Citizens Starts June 1st
BajaNews
Super Moderator
*******




Posts: 1439
Registered: 12-11-2005
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-17-2009 at 01:35 PM
Tighter Rules for Returning U.S. Citizens Starts June 1st


http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/17/1m17passp...

Many hurry to get travel documents; Tighter rules for returning U.S. citizens start June 1

By Leslie Berestein
May 17, 2009

Filling out an application at the post office on Midway Drive in San Diego last week, Fernando De Santiago was among the last-minute customers who have been lining up there to obtain a passport or passport card by June.

Though travel to the United States has been subject to stricter rules for some time, a new regulation that kicks in June 1 will once and for all make the days of casual, document-free travel to and from Mexico a distant memory for U.S. citizens.

When returning through land or sea ports of entry from Mexico, Canada, Bermuda and the Caribbean, U.S. citizens will be required to present a passport or one of a handful of accepted documents: a passport card, a “trusted traveler” card such as a SENTRI pass, or a driver's license enhanced with radio-frequency technology, issued in some states but not California.

The change, part of what's called the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, is an outgrowth of national security legislation enacted five years ago. Passports were required for air travelers returning from within the region in January 2007.

Beginning in January of last year, travelers 19 and older re-entering by land or sea had to present proof of citizenship, such as a birth or naturalization certificate, along with their state-issued identification. Oral declarations of citizenship, long the norm for day-trippers returning from Baja California, became a thing of the past.

With the final implementation of the travel initiative, state-issued driver's licenses, identification cards and birth certificates won't be acceptable documents for travelers 16 and older, although birth and naturalization certificates are still acceptable for minors under 16. The new rule won't affect legal, permanent residents.

At the Midway Drive post office, which takes walk-in passport applicants, lines have been longer than usual for about a month, said Susana Valenton, a passport acceptance clerk.

“By around 8:45, we have a long line already,” Valenton said.

De Santiago, 42, a U.S. citizen for 15 years, said he had waited until the last minute because he hadn't had an urgent need for a passport – until he realized that the new rule would affect his planned vacation in June to the Mexican city of Zacatecas, where he was born.

“I didn't have any trips planned,” De Santiago said as he scribbled his personal information on an application for a passport card. “Otherwise, I wouldn't have done this.”

De Santiago, who plans to fly to Zacatecas from Tijuana, doesn't travel much, so he chose the less-expensive passport card, a newer option that can be used only at land and sea ports of entry upon returning from nations covered by the initiative. The card costs $45, while a traditional passport book costs $100. The card can't be used for international air travel.

According to the U.S. State Department, there are more U.S. passport holders now than in 2002, when only about 19 percent of U.S. citizens had them. Today, 30 percent of U.S. citizens hold passports. Meanwhile, more than 1 million passport cards have been issued since production began last summer.

When the new travel regulations were announced in 2005, there was concern from business interests on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border about long lines heading to the north side and depressed tourism on the south side.

Tijuana residents, U.S. citizens among them, commute to jobs in San Diego County, while Baja California has long been a travel destination for visitors from throughout Southern California and beyond.

More than a year after the initial proof-of-citizenship requirement went into effect, there have been fewer problems than had been feared, said Angelika Villagrana, executive director of public policy for the San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce.

“There has been a lot of awareness, I think,” she said. “Because they started it a little bit gradually, going from nothing to birth certificates, people that cross a lot are getting used to it.”

Villagrana said the travel industry has done successful outreach, though there are still tourists who can't cross into Mexico because they lack the proper documents to return.

This continues to worry merchants in Baja California, where the tourism industry has been hammered by drug-cartel violence, the global recession and most recently the swine flu, which slowed Mexico's economy to a near halt this month as the government moved to contain the virus.

The proof-of-citizenship rule hasn't helped, said Antonio Tapia Hernandez, director of the Tijuana Chamber of Commerce.

“It generated uncertainty,” Tapia said. “ 'Do I need it or not? Will I be detained or have problems upon returning?' The more documents are required, the less people want to cross.”

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said last week that they weren't expecting longer lines than usual leading into San Diego County on June 1.

“The more people have WHTI-compliant documents, the faster the lines will go,” said Vince Bond, a spokesman for the agency. “It speeds up the whole process.”

Bond said that travelers who don't immediately have the right documents but who aren't suspected of fraud won't be turned away. Customs officers have been and will continue handing out fliers listing which documents are acceptable.

This year, equipment was installed at the San Ysidro Port of Entry to read traveler information on radio-frequency chips embedded in passport cards, SENTRI and other trusted-traveler passes, and the “enhanced” driver's licenses being issued in Washington, Michigan, Vermont and New York.

---------------
PASSPORT FACTS

Passport book cost for people 16 and older, $100; under 16, $85.

Passport card cost for people 16 and older, $45; under 16, $35.

Cost of passport card if requested with new or renewed passport book, $20.

Passport cards are not valid for international air travel.

Online: For more passport information, go to:
http://travel.state.gov or
http://getyouhome.gov




View user's profile
CaboRon
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 3401
Registered: 3-24-2007
Location: The Valley of the Moon
Member Is Offline

Mood: Peacefull

[*] posted on 5-21-2009 at 02:10 PM


This really cracks me up,

People have been warned for at least two years that this was an upcomming event ....

And now they are still whining about having to get a passport ....

Get it together already and get the dam passport .....

The longer you wait the closer the deadline will be :lol::lol:

And then you can see the many, many beautiful places on our diverse and awesome planet ....



[Edited on 5-21-2009 by CaboRon]




View user's profile
Dave
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6005
Registered: 11-5-2002
Member Is Offline


thumbup.gif posted on 5-21-2009 at 02:21 PM


I still have friends who swear that they will postpone, again. Great! Anything that frees up the border is a good thing.



View user's profile
Udo
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 6346
Registered: 4-26-2008
Location: Black Hills, SD/Ensenada/San Felipe
Member Is Offline

Mood: TEQUILA!

[*] posted on 5-21-2009 at 02:21 PM


I was informed by US Customs that they will accept a TWIX card.
Google it for more info.




Udo

Youth is wasted on the young!

View user's profile
Martyman
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1904
Registered: 9-10-2004
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-21-2009 at 02:25 PM


I love Twix... but Snickers is still my favorite
View user's profile
Bronco
Nomad
**




Posts: 168
Registered: 12-1-2007
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-21-2009 at 04:30 PM


Just returned from a biz trip to Chula Vista. The Post Office on Oxford has lines starting at 6:30a.m. and last all day long. Some enterprising “people” have gotten in line-muy temprano-got a number, then sell it to someone at the end of the line.
View user's profile
Udo
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 6346
Registered: 4-26-2008
Location: Black Hills, SD/Ensenada/San Felipe
Member Is Offline

Mood: TEQUILA!

[*] posted on 5-21-2009 at 05:30 PM


:lol::lol:Marty.
Will we see you in San Diego next weekend at the Baja Expo




Udo

Youth is wasted on the young!

View user's profile
MrBillM
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 21656
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Out and About
Member Is Offline

Mood: It's a Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah Day

[*] posted on 5-21-2009 at 06:48 PM
Waiting for the Curtain to Go UP.


On the Big Show.

I hope there's at least a little bit of Chaos. Enough to make entertaining viewing on The News Channels.

Since I won't be crossing Northbound during that time, I'll be disappointed if there aren't some antics to laugh over.

Reminds me of the late 70s Gas "Crisis" when I was going to a company school up in the Big City. I'd pull in early each a.m. to top off my tank in mostly empty Gas Stations and then laugh at the lines snaking around the block in the afternoons.

Panic is the American way.
View user's profile
CaboRon
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 3401
Registered: 3-24-2007
Location: The Valley of the Moon
Member Is Offline

Mood: Peacefull

[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 09:21 AM


Tags: Front Row Washington, canada, customs border protection, Mexico, passport
The U.S. Customs and Border Protection is making a big push to make sure Americans are aware that effective June 1 new document requirements will be in effect for entering the United States by land or sea from Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean.

The promotional material handed out to reporters to show the different acceptable forms of identification all used the name in the example of "Happy Traveler."

Verbal statements of American citizenship, birth certificates, or ordinary driver's licenses will not comply with the new requirements for re-entry after camping in the wilds of Canada, sunning on the beaches of Mexico, or cruising the Caribbean.

The Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, created in response to the Sept. 11 attacks, will require one of the following for Americans: passport, passport card, enhanced driver's license, or one of three trusted traveler program cards.

Except for the passport, they all have a Radio Frequency Identification chip that can be held up to an electronic reader before the traveler encounters the officer at the entry booth.

Entry by Canadians also requires passport, enhanced driver's license, or a trusted traveler program card. There will be no change for Mexicans who will continue to be required to present a passport with visa or a border crossing card.

The government will be flexible for some time after the June 1 start of the program for those who didn't get the memo on the changes, but repeat offenders will be noted.

"We'll get to a point where enough is enough," Jayson Ahern, acting commissioner of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, told reporters.

Asked whether the identification cards were similar to an EZPass to get through toll booths, Ahern replied: "Similar but different." He said he doesn't expect the changes to increase traffic backup at entry points.




View user's profile
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 10:03 AM


Does anyone know which states actually issue drivers licenses with the radio chip?

I realize that the passport card and/ or SENTRI is fine for people making frequent cross-border trips. However, anyone contemplating travel anywhere else in the world, needs a passport book.
View user's profile
Dave
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6005
Registered: 11-5-2002
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-23-2009 at 10:31 AM
Drunk bar talk


That's unconstitutional! sez a bar regular.

Passport or no passport, ain't it illegal to refuse a citizen admittance to their own country?

Wouldn't they send you to secondary, hassle you a bit but then eventually let you in?




View user's profile
CaboRon
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 3401
Registered: 3-24-2007
Location: The Valley of the Moon
Member Is Offline

Mood: Peacefull

[*] posted on 5-23-2009 at 10:39 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
That's unconstitutional! sez a bar regular.

Passport or no passport, ain't it illegal to refuse a citizen admittance to their own country?

Wouldn't they send you to secondary, hassle you a bit but then eventually let you in?


My lawyer for many years has admonished me to

"Never argue your constitutional rights with the officer"

"Leave that for me to use in the courtroom"

Good advice if you ask me ....

Just get the dam passport :lol::lol::lol:




View user's profile
MrBillM
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 21656
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Out and About
Member Is Offline

Mood: It's a Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah Day

[*] posted on 5-23-2009 at 04:10 PM
Getting IN


When the question comes up, you're already IN the USA.

IF you CLAIM U.S. citizenship, legally, the worst they can do is detain you until your status is verified.

Hell, they have Salvadorans and others show up and claim asylum and they can't shuffle them back.

LEGALLY.
View user's profile
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline

Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja

[*] posted on 5-23-2009 at 04:33 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Does anyone know which states actually issue drivers licenses with the radio chip?






Mainly border states such as Arizona, California, Michigan, Texas, Vermont and Washington....more may be on line soon




View user's profile
bajabound2005
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 2760
Registered: 10-15-2005
Location: Punta Banda, BCN
Member Is Offline

Mood: words cannot describe...

[*] posted on 5-23-2009 at 05:45 PM


California is not yet issuing RFID driver's licenses...



Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
View user's profile This user has MSN Messenger
bajalou
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4459
Registered: 3-11-2004
Location: South of the broder
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 5-24-2009 at 07:34 AM


The only states that have issued them so far are Washington, Michigan, Vermont and New York. None of the states bordering Mexico are issuing them yet.

http://www.getyouhome.gov/html/lang_eng/eng_edl.html




No Bad Days

\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"

\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"

Nomad Baja Interactive map

And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area
View user's profile
fishingmako
Nomad
**




Posts: 259
Registered: 10-10-2008
Member Is Offline

Mood: always up

[*] posted on 5-26-2009 at 06:38 PM


Coming real soon.
View user's profile

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262