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biggrin.gif posted on 6-7-2009 at 12:54 PM
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BTW Serenita, please put a period in your post somewhere. The grammer police are watching and they can't stand 500 word sentences!:lol:


i know...guilty sorry...
The thing is that once i get on a roll its hard to stop for grammer!
I promise i will try harder. (is that better??)

And mt i agree with you that sadly american (because i do not like the term gringo) and mexican drivers all have the same bad habits while crossing the border. Oh well...i guess that is just, well...i don't know why it is.

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[*] posted on 6-7-2009 at 01:42 PM


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American drivers accept lane alternation as the simple, fair, decent and culturally acceptable standard. Easy as that. You go, I go, you go, I go- it never really occurs to us that we can do anything other than that- because that's how we watched our mothers and fathers drive when we we children- so that's how we drive ouselves.


swooshie,
your anti-mexican rant is nonsense. have you ever crossed at TJ? gringo drivers are as bad as mexican drivers. most all people lose civility at border crossing. gringos are not better people, they just think they are


Why so needlessly defensive. I prefaced my comments as being anti tijuanero-drivers only, not anti-mexican. I have no love for Parisian drivers either- but enjoy puttering around the rest of France. OK? Same thing.

I am talking purely about the culture of driving. In the USA driving the family car is a shared family cultural experience. Most middle class families have one family car that they buy, wash, wax, maintain, insure and take great pride in. We anxiously await our learrners permits at 15, our parents teach us how to drive and then possibly will loan us the keys on prom night, and at graduatio get acar to take to college with us. It is an American middle-class rite of passage. The USA is culturally defined by autos in many ways. Mexicans don't have that social and cultural connection to cars for purely ecomonic reasons that are obvious. The see cars as the luxury of private transportation- not as a cultural learning tool that bonds families and society.

woooosh-note: I was driving in Connecticut with some of my Mexican family a few years back (we flew in- so it was sort of like dropping them into another world). They had many observations, but the most telling one was about driving. At a four way stop in CT it takes another ten seconds because everyone is waving at each other to go first. They cracked up at that. That's why in the USA the person to your right at a four-way stop goes first if you arrive at the same time. Otherwise you'd be there all day. In Rosartio while you wait or yield, another car (usually a taxi) will pass you on your right and just blow through it completely. That has never happened in my whole life in the USA and I see it every day here.

Don't be defensive about Tjuanero drivers. They are what they are. You can't blame people for not driving civily at the worlds busiest car crossing. But we could make it a nicer experience for each other if not for the glaring cultural differences when it comes to how we drive.

[Edited on 6-7-2009 by Woooosh]




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[*] posted on 6-7-2009 at 02:00 PM


"... gringo drivers are as bad as mexican drivers. most all people lose civility at border crossing. "


I definitely have to agree with the above. It seems that every driver (almost without fail) turns into a total assh*** at the TJ border. There must be something in the air near the TJ border that brings on this nasty transformation. After 15 years of crossing primarily at TJ, I have very seldom had anyone give me a break. Frankly, I'm surprised that more people haven't been seriously injured at that crossing, considering how aggressive everyone drives there.

At the Tecate crossing (at least it was true the last time I crossed at the end of a holiday weekend -- I know--dumb thing to do), you don't have this melee going on! Everything appears orderly... and don't even try to cut in line there... the policia will turn your butt around and send you to the back of the line... which could be winding out of town... Far more civilized crossing rather than the TJ "free for all - bumper car fracus".
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