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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
WTF was the parents thinking , looking out for themselfs with the expence of their young daughter, would this be considered child abuse?
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some 16 year olds are quite mature, some aren't. don't judge the sailor chick based on the immaturity of your own 16 year old 
I applaud the parents for raising a child capable of doing what she did, particularly in light of the many 16 year olds who cannot even be trusted to
be left home alone overnite or trusted with parents car keys!
i think it's great if a 16 year old sets out to break a record, travels the world alone, does admirably, and survives to tell her tale.
(here is a sailor that started young: did you know that Joshua Slocum ran away from home at age 14 to sign on to a fishing vessel, and permanetly
left home at age 16 to sign on ship as merchant seaman?)
perhaps it irks you that the kid and her parents know how to self-promote. the reality is that most people that set out to set endurance records have
to promote themselves to fund their endeavors.
all sailing competitors are either self-promoters to gain financial backing for their full time sailing careers, or they are wealthy and able to fund
their part-time sailing hobby. sailing at high level for long duration requires $$, and nothing wrong with beating your chest to drum up $$.
the chick rocks!
[Edited on 6-14-2010 by mtgoat666]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
the chick rocks!
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Chick???? She's 16. 
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16-Year Old Chicas
Sweet 16s.
Goat's got it right for once.
I remember quite a few mature 16-Year Old Gals.
And, the one under discussion looks mature enough.
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Thanks Sculpin, I figured as much. I know you from your postings to be a fair person and I do understand and tend to agree with you. I would hope
that we can continue to challenge ourselves without interference from gov't or others. That, I assume would apply to most of us who travel in that
dangerous land called Baja.
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mtgoat666
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Joan of arc first went to war at age 16, leading troops no less!
were her parents irresponsible?
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The good old days
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Joan of arc first went to war at age 16, leading troops no less!
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And back then it wasn't unusual for even preteen girls to marry.
Your logic escapes reality.
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Frenchy Joan
But, Joan of Arc was a Religious Nutcase, wasn't she ? Of course, the Sunderland family is said to be devout, too.
On the other hand, I also heard (can't remember exactly where) that Joan was carrying a grudge against men because they found her unappealing due to
an excess of Body Hair and she took out her frustration and anger by hacking them up in the name of God.
That may (or may not) be accurate.
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Latest news from the Sunderland camp
Negotiations underway for a reality series. 
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Was just wondering................
.............did the estate of Steve Fossett pay for the search for his whereabouts?
If not, I guess it's OK for the gubmit to pay if your rich...........or die. Never heard a peep about it.
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Don't know about reimbursement, but they finally did find Steve Fossett's aircraft (and body), I believe, near the minerettes north of Mammoth in the
Sierra Nevada, if I remember correctly.
Barry
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hook what i recall
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
.............did the estate of Steve Fossett pay for the search for his whereabouts?
If not, I guess it's OK for the gubmit to pay if your rich...........or die. Never heard a peep about it. |
was the family actually paid privately for an extended search including times and area covered beyond the "normal" SAR you get as a public service. so
after a point they were paying 100% of the bills. 'course they could...
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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Did a little very casual research on Steve F.disappearance-----------never found the body, but did find Steve's personal effects like ID, wallet, etc.
Speculated that wild animals (bears, coyotes, cats, etc.) made short work of the body. Aircraft wreckage indicated direct and fast collision with
side of mountain----Steve probably never knew what hit him (speculation). A packpacker was the one that finally found the wreckage, strickly by
chance, and it was a long time after the accident (or suicide??).
A trajedy for sure. Steve was a true NOMAD-TYPE guy.
Barry
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ANSWERS TO THE CRITIC.
We are so thankful once again for all of you who understand and support Abby’s spirit of adventure and for those of you who have the humility to give
the respect that Abby and her team of experts deserve. It is impossible to answer every criticism. There are so many who are only hearing of Abby for
the first time and who, due to a lack of understanding and knowledge, accept what the media is saying without question or without discerning that they
could be wrong or the motives of those involved may not be sincere. We will attempt to comment on several themes of concern:
LETTER FROM THE AUSTRALIAN SEARCH & RESCUE
Can you put a message on your blog informing your readers that the Australian government has not requested any recovery cost for Abby’s search and
recovery. In fact the Govt here has been in the media and stated that fact several times. I doubt this got coverage in the US.
Australia like the US have always responded to requests for help and have provided whatever resources are required. At no stage have we asked for cost
recovery. Likewise domestic search and rescue have never requested payment for services. If a person wishes to make a contribution to the costs then
that is their call. It is not expected or asked for.
The cost recovery stuff is a beat up by the media. They do it every time. Don’t get sucked in by it. Unfortunately some of the comments I have read on
some blogs seems to paint Australians as a bunch of tight arses who will only rescue people if they have a cheque book. This has never been the case
as you have found out.
Let’s not let the media hijack a good story. Likewise don’t become a victim of it by playing into their hands.
Bottom line is, don’t get sucked in by the media. I would like a clarification on your blog just letting your readers know that the Australian
Government has not requested payment nor would they. Let’s not let the media portray the many groups that were involved in Abby’s rescue as a bunch of
people motivated and driven by money. This is not the case.
-Search and Rescue Volunteer Perth.
REALITY SHOW
Laurence and I were approached by Magnetic Entertainment last year before Abby departed to shop a reality TV show based on our family. Abby's trip was
already sponsored. Their idea was to do an inspiring show about Zac and Abby’s adventures, what our family was like and what made them as strong and
independent as they are. The show was shopped and not sold. All rights were returned to us. There is no reality TV show or documentary in the works
and we will not be persuing one. We find it ironic that the media, who are spreading gossip and sensationalizing Abby’s story for profit, have the
nerve to criticize us for supposedly doing the same thing – very ironic.
TOO FAR SOUTH, TOO LATE IN THE SEASON
Abby's trip was being watched and guided daily by Commander’s Weather, a team of meteorologists that have been routing sailboats around the world for
30 years. Their clients include professional sailors such as Steve Fossett, Ellen MacArthur and PUMA Ocean Racing.
From meteorologist Ken Campbell:
1st, we would not have been involved in this project if we thought this was a publicity stunt or Abby was not capable
2nd, Abby more than proved that she was fully capable, so if everybody agreed to continue, we were on board with you
3rd, we have refused many projects and clients - we have over 6000 clients, but we will not work with somebody that is not capable or does something
we consider too dangerous
We were late crossing the Indian Ocean, but I felt Abby was fully capable. Do we handle sailors crossing the North Atlantic in December? Sure, but
they follow our rules and we push them as far S as possible and avoid headwinds. We tried to keep her as far N as possible, but there is such a thing
as too far N and the worst situation of all would be headwinds and we did avoid those.
Very few people have ever forecast weather there (the southern Indian Ocean), let alone route sailboats. This storm was not unusual for that location,
for that time of year and the strategy was the best there could be for that situation
You are great, loving and caring parents, with a remarkable daughter and most of all, she is safe to try again! She is a fine example of the true
human spirit! That is what should be celebrated, not criticized. By the way, she is 16, not 8.
Posted by Abby Sunderland at 9:07 AM 0 comments
Sunday, June 13, 201
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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