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[*] posted on 11-17-2013 at 04:02 PM


Didn't I read somewhere that the guy had some dealings in Tijuana shortly before the disappearance?
The Isuzu found at the border points to people abandoning it there and crosslng on foot.
And the hit, including small children, has the feeling of a Cartel hit, with no mercy for anyone.

4 years went by, lots of luck finding the scum.

[Edited on 11-17-2013 by vandenberg]




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[*] posted on 11-17-2013 at 04:09 PM


I didn't read that, if you find the article or source please post it. It certainly does have the feel of a cartel hit, but why they would come across the border to do it is strange...and go all the way to the Mojave Desert to dispose of the bodies.
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Didn't I read somewhere that the guy had some dealings in Tijuana shortly before the disappearance?
The Isuzu found at the border points to people abandoning it there and crosslng on foot.
And the hit, including small children, has the feeling of a Cartel hit, with no mercy for anyone.

4 years went by, lots of luck finding the scum.

[Edited on 11-17-2013 by vandenberg]
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[*] posted on 11-17-2013 at 07:58 PM


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I didn't read that, if you find the article or source please post it. It certainly does have the feel of a cartel hit, but why they would come across the border to do it is strange...and go all the way to the Mojave Desert to dispose of the bodies.
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Didn't I read somewhere that the guy had some dealings in Tijuana shortly before the disappearance?
The Isuzu found at the border points to people abandoning it there and crosslng on foot.
And the hit, including small children, has the feeling of a Cartel hit, with no mercy for anyone.

4 years went by, lots of luck finding the scum.

[Edited on 11-17-2013 by vandenberg]


It IS logical to me that the perps would take them to the Mojave Desert, using the McStay car and the perp's car. There are no stop signs, no signal lights, and NO CHECKPOINTS, from Fallbrook to Barstow and beyond. Easy ride, kill them there, ride both cars to the border, dump the minivan, done.

Oh, I also do not believe this is just some random act of violence.

Edit: to not make it look like I'm drunk.

[Edited on 11-18-2013 by bajadogs]
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[*] posted on 11-17-2013 at 08:15 PM


For amateur sleuths looking for something to do, here's more that's "out there" on this... both previously, and presently:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508766/Mystery-McSt...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508305/Author-McSta...

http://joebrainardspajamas.blogspot.com/2011/12/mcstays-upda...

http://joebrainardspajamas.blogspot.com/2013/01/darker-scena...

http://www.cheaterville.com/?page=cheaters&id=10506

http://letsfindthem.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/the-mystery-of-...

http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12025015




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[*] posted on 11-17-2013 at 08:18 PM


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"Joseph McStay`s job involves importing decorative fountains, like little mini-water falls, from Mexico"

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1311/15/ijvm.01.html




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[*] posted on 11-17-2013 at 09:42 PM


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but why they would come across the border to do it is strange...



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[*] posted on 11-18-2013 at 08:06 PM





https://www.youtube.com/user/jbmcstay

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[*] posted on 11-18-2013 at 09:34 PM


Killing the two little boys, is heartbreaking. The question is why would you kill two innocent children? Somebody must have been awfully angry.
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[*] posted on 11-19-2013 at 12:05 PM


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"Joseph McStay`s job involves importing decorative fountains, like little mini-water falls, from Mexico"

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1311/15/ijvm.01.html


...and one of the early theories was that a large fountain shipped to his shop in the US contained cocaine or drug cartel money and they were really peeed because he took off with it?




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[*] posted on 11-20-2013 at 06:38 AM


From the link above, I only see the mention of Mexico and fountains in passing but no concrete facts. Where did you get your source of information on the drugs hidden in the fountains Bob?
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[*] posted on 11-20-2013 at 06:41 AM


The other thing is, the perps could have taken the Isuzu Trooper easily across the border, and changed the VIN number for compensation. I don't believe it was a Mexico connection, they would have had no problem, relatively speaking, driving the car across the border at the time because the family wasn't known as missing at the time. I think it was a decoy to make everyone believe it was a Mexico connection.
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[*] posted on 11-22-2013 at 11:11 AM


Heard something on the news this AM about his business partner perhaps being a person of interest since they were together shortly before the disappearance and found buried near his house?

I wouldn't be buying any stock in his future.




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[*] posted on 11-22-2013 at 11:15 AM


That seems like a very plausible solution Dennis, and highly likely. Of course the "experts in the field" frown down upon any speculation by us "wannabe detectives". It really teases the mind however to find a solution, and makes a fascinating story.
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[*] posted on 11-22-2013 at 07:07 PM
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The cost of the time per hour and manpower to review millions of people crossing the border each year would be unrealistic.
Hola doc & all....guess what??? your wrong on this !! every car/truck/bus is recorded !! AND NOT NEW TECH !! ANPR (AUTOMATIC NUMBER PLATE RECONITION) IS ON THE US SIDE OF THE BORDER and has been for a few years !!! and a few cop/shops in the usa also have them...Big Brother is watching !! OHH that Great FREE feeling !!! :rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 11-22-2013 at 07:59 PM


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Heard something on the news this AM about his business partner perhaps being a person of interest since they were together shortly before the disappearance and found buried near his house?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510247/Prime-suspec...




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[*] posted on 11-22-2013 at 08:41 PM
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SIR,,with all due respect !! why do folks in the USA need to get real news from the UK ?? I know that the news in the USA is a joke......but..is it that bad ?? Thanks for a Great update and what a sad story IMO...K&T............:cool:
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