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[*] posted on 3-29-2010 at 07:51 AM
Before and After


Then (1959) and Now at Painted Canyon - Bay of Conception peninsula.



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[*] posted on 3-29-2010 at 08:52 AM


The arroyo above that rock is a lovely hike. Climbing that little wall to the right of the big rock is more of a challenge in recent years! Much easier when I was a youngster in my 50's.
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[*] posted on 3-29-2010 at 09:07 AM


sure hope we can find it to take another photo!



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shocked.gif posted on 3-29-2010 at 11:19 AM


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The arroyo above that rock is a lovely hike. Climbing that little wall to the right of the big rock is more of a challenge in recent years! Much easier when I was a youngster in my 50's.


Not to brag, but...ahem...I climbed over that rock two weeks ago. I was more worried about my dog Paco. He is big and heavy. If he should lose his footing, he could really hurt himself. While these thoughts were running through my mind, Paco sprang past my ear and landed on top of the rock...No Problema!

Roger- In the "before" picture, is that an archeologist or is he the guy who painted the petroglyphs? Funny, he didn't look that old :lol:

Shari- If you come this way before May, you will surely stop by for a visit. I can take you or easily describe how to find it.




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[*] posted on 3-29-2010 at 11:44 AM


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...Roger- In the "before" picture, is that an archeologist or is he the guy who painted the petroglyphs? Funny, he didn't look that old :lol:

Shari- If you come this way before May, you will surely stop by for a visit. I can take you or easily describe how to find it.


Hola Tony...that 'before' photo is from one of 'Uncle' Erle's expeditions..circa 1959. .on the left is Ricardo Castillo, who still lives right here in Mulege (Villas de Mulege, Coyote leaseholds, etc). The other gent is none other than Blackjack..JW Black, expedition ramrod, inventor, and expert campfire Beechnut spitter.

The 'after' photo is a group of escapees from Bellevue Hosp. New York.

The Painted Canyon is very easy to fine..as the many hundreds over the years have found out..and I already sent shari instructions. Come to mi casa when they arrive and we'll open a keg. :rolleyes:

We used to camp over there many times years ago..a magical place indeed..you can still hear those ancient voices late at night, murmuring something about..... those damn Jake brakes...

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[*] posted on 3-29-2010 at 06:19 PM


That may have been a bit later than '59 Roger... you know how nit picky I am with dates and history, sorry! :light::rolleyes:

The photo is on page 113 of Gardner's 1967 book 'Off the Beaten Path in Baja' covering their expeditions of 1966. The Butterfly (ATV in photo) was an invention of J.W. Black in the mid 60's, and Ricardo looks the same as the other 1966 pictures of him I have... and that was a trip the Choral Pepper and Gardner flew in Capt. Muņoz single engine and had to stop at the Santa Maria Sky Ranch and wait for better weather before flying on to Mulege where the rest of the group was standing by. Choral and Jack Pepper hadn't yet met Gardner in '59.

Uncle Erle was always curious about the other side of Concepcion Bay... as the maps of the time showed nothing over there... no roads, nothing. Not only did they open a road along the other side, but they made a runway for Capt. Muņoz over there too (a mud flat).

While the painted cliff was shared, I always wondered why he made no mention of the mine ruins near the tip of the Concepcion peninsula...

Can you get Mexicali Beer by the case down there? The new Mexicali Beer (brewed in Tecate) is quite good, but you don't see it too many places (like in the old Garner book days)!

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[*] posted on 3-29-2010 at 10:39 PM


Well chit. I am just all screwed up then, David.......guess I must have just forgotten those darn dates...darn.

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[*] posted on 3-29-2010 at 11:55 PM


Tony - in relation to where we were today - where is this HUGE rock ? And did you take some pics when you went 2 weeks ago? if so, pls send me some. Nice seeing you today .....:bounce: THANKS




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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 07:48 AM


Before and after potos are great... in fact, the same book that Pompano's photos came from ('Off the Beaten Track in Baja') is the trip the Gardner party took south of Bahia de los Angeles opening the road to Punta San Francisquito (Feb. 1966) when they found the mysterious walls, date palm, reservoir that led Choral Pepper to believe they found an abandoned Jesuit mission site: http://vivabaja.com/109

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Choral Pepper took this photo of Bruce Barron on the hill with the walls.
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2009:



Baja Angel took this photo of me holding the 1966 photo, at the same spot.
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Side by side, 1966 and 2009:





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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 08:23 AM
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1971 Coyote Bay


1981 Coyote Bay


2004 Coyote Bay

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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 01:12 PM


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Tony - in relation to where we were today - where is this HUGE rock ? And did you take some pics when you went 2 weeks ago? if so, pls send me some. Nice seeing you today .....:bounce: THANKS


Blanca,
Good to see you and Les yesterday! The rock in Pompano's photo is about a third of the way up the rock canyon. No, I didn't photograph it. I was too occupied planning how to get up on it and beyond. That's not a climb for all but the fittest and not really good to try on a hot afternoon like yesterday. I did it two weeks earlier and in the morning. Also, I was wearing hiking boots. :) You did get to see and photograph the majority of the petroglyphs though.




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[*] posted on 3-30-2010 at 01:30 PM
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1976-77. Posada developments as seen from my old house on hilltop.

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[*] posted on 3-31-2010 at 02:32 AM


This is great! Thanks Roger!



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[*] posted on 3-31-2010 at 11:40 AM


These pics are the greatest. Thanks guys
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[*] posted on 4-1-2010 at 09:00 PM


nice pics, thanks
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