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capt. mike
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Bob - since i am intimately familiar with your fantastic garage - how about cluing me in on what that erection cost?
PM is good if you don't want it public.
Tom and i are thinking about one at ML's lotas.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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cj5orion
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He got somebody else to do it for less .
Hope they know......square-straight-plumb-level ?????
Home Remodels/Builds..Recession!
Gone BAJA BUILDIN/FISHIN !
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capt. mike
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square-straight-plumb-level ?????
why?? he wants it to look authentic right?? 
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
square-straight-plumb-level ?????
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If you're off on your first measuremant, just think of all the cool tools you get to use to compensate for your error right to the end of the job.
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Pescador
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Some people just simply do not qualify to be customers.
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cj5orion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
Some people just simply do not qualify to be customers. |
Puts it quite well !!!
Another part of "the deal" was to also build a bathroom/shower guest house,as well as individual baths in the yurts,which also needed some work done.
Then there was the "oh I'm gonna have solar power now,so lets run some lights,outlets,etc",desal water with pumps for pressurized water,hot/cold,"lets
run some pipe,faucets.etc"
Then the "promise of future work"...."I'd like to have a house,for myself,down here,could you build that too ?"
"oh yeah...get me material take-offs for all this stuff",(I held off on those untill all was confirmed,,,which never happened)
jeeeeeeez ! lumber-plumbing-electrical.....glad I never turned them over !
Sorry....jus venting a lil !
Did get a nice lil 2 story deck to build in Gonzaga though,
unrelated to los animas.
Nice way to ride out the downturn in the states !
Home Remodels/Builds..Recession!
Gone BAJA BUILDIN/FISHIN !
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capt. mike
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just curious - how do you get this work in baja? are you a citizen/resident?, do you have a work permit visa??
is there no enforcement there cause it's so remote?
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
just curious - how do you get this work in baja? are you a citizen/resident?, do you have a work permit visa??
is there no enforcement there cause it's so remote? |
Maybe he just has tha Baja spirit of adventure. I like it. After living down here for a while, it's easy to get that feeling that your life is
completely over-regulated.
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cj5orion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
just curious - how do you get this work in baja? are you a citizen/resident?, do you have a work permit visa??
is there no enforcement there cause it's so remote? |
It was just coincidental....this guy bought all of this stuff,(solar system-complete,desal unit,washer/dryer,hot water heater,fridge) from my buddies
place.I was there selling all this stuff,he found out I am a remodel contractor,here in SD,and asked me to install/build.So...I gave him some "baja
bids",cause I like being in baja and there isnt any "real work" going on here in SD.
Hell,I thought,my expenses would be minimal while there,,,mainly just cover my normal US monthly expenses and throw in some food/beer/ gas money.
AAAAAND,he was always complaining about the "bad work" that was done in the past,so I told him I would do a proper job,up to US standards,(as much as
possible),and I also informed him that I was there to work, not fish and drink beer! Probably do a easy 40 hrs + a week.Go fishin on a day off,like ya
would stateside.
Done deal right ??? Wrong !!!!
Home Remodels/Builds..Recession!
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capt. mike
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hell i'd do it.
but have a contingency in the budget for a fine if i got caught. 
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cj5orion
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
Some people just simply do not qualify to be customers. |
Puts it quite well !!!
Another part of "the deal" was to also build a bathroom/shower guest house,as well as individual baths in the yurts,which also needed some work done.
Then there was the "oh I'm gonna have solar power now,so lets run some lights,outlets,etc",desal water with pumps for pressurized water,hot/cold,"lets
run some pipe,faucets.etc"
Then the "promise of future work"...."I'd like to have a house,for myself,down here,could you build that too ?"
"oh yeah...get me material take-offs for all this stuff",(I held off on those untill all was confirmed,,,which never happened)
jeeeeeeez ! lumber-plumbing-electrical.....glad I never turned them over !
Sorry....jus venting a lil !
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Sounds like the customer is running a local business. He would find it hard to run the business if he hired a gringo to do the construction work, and
I am sure he knew that when he asked you for bid. You should have been aware of that when he first asked you for bid -- people running local
businesses need to employ locals (well, they can employ gringos in place of locals, but won't be good for local community relations).
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classicbajabronco
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what termites in baja???????
In the states, materials(lumber) and labor are usually pretty close. here with the inflated material price and lower labor that may not be the case.
cost plus is the contractors mark up. This applies to both materials and labor. The % is prenegotiated with the owner.
Don't work for your friend if you plan on having a good lasting relationship. $3000 for labor on a garage project in baja is a joke unless you like
working for peanuts. Have you built many structures in Baja, it's not the same thing as the states? Are you legally able to work here? Are you a
naturalized citizen or a mexican national? if not don't even think about it unless you want your butt deported. And it will be deported if any of the
locals see you and get peeed off you are taking " their" job. All it takes is one guy talking to immigration, and if you're here on a tourist visa
your ass may be thrown in the slammer, while you are being deported.
[Edited on 5-30-2010 by classicbajabronco]
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irenemm
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Immigration has been checking gringos in the Vicente Guerrero area. Which is just north of San Quintin about 12 miles. they have been to a few places
when gringos live and help out. So be careful.
many years ago someone sent then in here. My aunt was helping out 1 day I was in the States and my husband was at the globlos (swap-meet) buying
vegetable for the week. they were taking her away when he showed up. this was in 1982 or 83. They were sent here by an ex manager and also after a
flower grower. He had papers my aunt did not. It cost us 400. dollars. so hey now maybe 1000. at least.
we had an employee just last month say she was going to report me. Because we put camera in our business. She was just mad because now nothing can get
misplaced or lost. I said here is the phone call them.
be careful.
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cj5orion
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That Pacific side sure sounds like its all regulated pretty tight.
Over here in (omitted for "security reasons")...its quite different !
The "locals" are of the opinion that us "workin gringos" are their SOURCE of income ! This is their opinion,not mine.They are glad that we're
here,doing some "remodel/construction work" cause we then hire them for
the labor.We have the tools and the skills,whereas they do not,they realize
this and are gratefull that us gringos get the work and then hire them for help.Its a source of income that would not be available otherwise.Nobody
here is worried about fm3's,workvisa's,immigration,deportation,etc,etc.When we go stateside,we bring back t-shirts,shoes,what-have-you,and
again,,,,grateful.
jus sayin 
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classicbajabronco
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Best change your location on signature...because we all know where your are located...by looking below where it says cjorion....I live on the same
side as you and also know of people who where just helping out the locals and other locals turned them in...Those people were deported and are no
longer welcome in MX.
If you want to work..go get your papers in order....do you even have a FM3?
As far as other gringos in the area building and remodeling...it is perfectly legal if they own the property or are family of those who own the
property. If you own the property, you van build the whole damn house if you were so inclined..using no local labor. I am guessing that is the case
with those other projects near you in that "secret" bay
[Edited on 5-25-2010 by classicbajabronco]
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