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BAJA.DESERT.RAT
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Hola, i don't own a diesel and am just passing info from the bajaponyexpress3@gmail.com website.
i hope it helps.
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
Jul 19 2010, 10:54 AM Post #1
HOLA, THIS WAS JUST POSTED ON THE BAJAPONYEXPRESS3:
BIEN SALUD, JAMES H
a. Answer to question in BPE #858, July 15th. This is a resubmittal of my earlier comment to the BPE with an update
I have been doing some research lately on the diesel being supplied locally here in LB. After a couple trips to the Pemex I was finally given a
telephone # for Pemex in La Paz where a very knowledgeable Pemex technician confirmed that Pemex is not yet supplying Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel (15
parts per million (ppm)) as required by diesel engines manufactured after 2006 in the USA. He confirmed that their Diesel is currently running between
420 - 460 ppm, which conforms to the 500 ppm that was the USA standard prior to 2007. He said "someday" Mexico would start supplying the Ultra Low
Sulfer Diesel, but not yet.
I also talked to Cesar, the owner of the NAPA Auto repair shop in San Jose del Cabo, and he stated that Pemex was still not providing the Ultra Low
Sulfer Diesel. He further stated that by burning the 500 ppm diesel in the newer engines is probably asking for problems sooner or later.
A further update to my earlier message........
I talked to a person who has a friend that drove a new diesel down to Mexico. The first time, he had no problems, the second time the engine quit. He
had to have the vehicle hauled back to the USA where it cost him $12,000 US dollars to have the motor rebuilt.
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Bob and Susan
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the dodge had a PARTICULATE FILTER but it cleared automaticly...
i had a software problem the first week when i was
burning ULSF in california
but the dealer "flashed" the computer and all was repaired
again sulfur is not bad for your engine but
it is bad for our lungs
the ULSF is for SMOG compliance
i really wonder if the truck dealers in la paz
can really solve a diesel computer problem
and this guy who paid 12k to rebuild????
the dealer backs for 100k miles
how old was the thing and how many miles
he must have run out of oil or something that was his fault
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monoloco
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The great thing about the diesel engine used to be their simplicity but for the last 15 years every year they have gotten more and more complex. The
latest crop are the most complex and consequently are very expensive to service and repair. I have a diesel truck but if I was going to buy a truck
for Baja I don't think I would consider any of the new ones, they are all just too finicky when it comes to fuel type and quality. If you had a fuel
related or electronic issue with any of the new diesel engines it would most likely mean a costly transport to the border for warranty service. I
don't know too much about Chevy or Dodge diesels but I know that Ford has been quick to void their warrantees over fuel related issues. On the
Powerstroke forum I have read posts from several people who have needed new fuel systems in the 6.4 liter motors, to the tune of $10k due to water in
the fuel that Ford refused to warranty. I just can't see spending 60k on a vehicle that finicky, all the new emission requirements have just turned
them into complex nightmares IMHO.
[Edited on 8-1-2010 by monoloco]
[Edited on 8-1-2010 by monoloco]
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The ULSD fuel has the same lubricity as the old high sulfur fuel, it is the law. If you want a Baja specific truck, look at the 94-98.5 12 valve Dodge
Diesel. A very simple engine with a bulletproof P7100 injection pump. Probably the most reliable diesel made. Todays diesels are far too electronic
and complex, although they run a lot quieter and smoother. You can get these trucks pretty cheap and with a little work can be turned into a real nice
Baja vehicle. Nice thing about a truck like that is you don't have to get all strung out about scratches and dents. I like all of mine and I always
win at 4 way stop sign wars. As well, for free, you can double the horsepower.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Sorry to break the news to some folks but brand new diesels must have PARTICULATE FILTERS, and these filters are very prone to clogging up when using
anything other than ULSD. They cost thousands of dollars to replace so I don't just shrug off warnings about not using low sulfur diesel in brand new
diesel pickups. So before I buy I'd check and see if the vehicle has a particulate filter. A particulate filter is not a regenerator. It is different
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Ok, if this assumption is correct then how did Bob manage to drive two trucks over 200,000 miles each, with no problems on Mexican fuel? I have been
watching the RV sites where a lot of mainlanders have reported the same results with the Dodge Cummins. So we could have a situation where the Ford
and Chevy have some particulate problems but Dodge engines are less prone to that problem?
My interest has been purely personal since I am coming upon the eventual replacement of my 2001 and am hoping that I can replace it with something
that will last as long as the first one did with the same lack of problems and it is sometimes a little difficult to filter out the rhetoric reported
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The particulate filter is a big problem in all of the later model diesels. They can and will cause problems even burning low sulfer diesel without
ever going to Baja. My 2008 Dodge diesel just cost me over $2,500 to replace the filter. The mechanics at the dealer said don't get rid of your older
diesel, used older diesels are in big demand now because of emission control problems with the newer models. Google diesel particulate filters and you
will find several kits for defeating the system- all illegal and come with a disclaimer to be used exclusively for off road  I owned a 1999 Dodge Diesel and ran 200K plus miles with zero problems. The engine
lite on my newer model never stays off more than a day after leaving the shop.
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This talk on Diesels has gone on for a long time, many different threads and you hear so many different issues.
I have a 2004 Ford 350 Diesel 6.0 Liter and have put almost nothing but Mexican Diesel in it and never ever a problem.
So if your paranoid don't put in Mexican diesel simple solution, leave it home or drive something else.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishingmako
This talk on Diesels has gone on for a long time, many different threads and you hear so many different issues.
I have a 2004 Ford 350 Diesel 6.0 Liter and have put almost nothing but Mexican Diesel in it and never ever a problem.
So if your paranoid don't put in Mexican diesel simple solution, leave it home or drive something else. |
You
are lucky, a lot of folks with those motors have had serious head gasket and injector issues, however the problems are not fuel related. They have the
nickname of six leakers.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishingmako
This talk on Diesels has gone on for a long time, many different threads and you hear so many different issues.
I have a 2004 Ford 350 Diesel 6.0 Liter and have put almost nothing but Mexican Diesel in it and never ever a problem.
So if your paranoid don't put in Mexican diesel simple solution, leave it home or drive something else. |
You
are lucky, a lot of folks with those motors have had serious head gasket and injector issues, however the problems are not fuel related. They have the
nickname of six leakers. |
And don't forget the Turbo problem. I have been in 3 campgrounds in the States and one on Mainland Mexico where people were waiting for the Turbo to
be repaired on their Ford. The one in Mexico had to wait for over a week for parts to ship from USA and another week for repairs. Ford did cover all
the repairs.
rocmoc n AZ/Baja
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
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