ElFaro
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Mag Bay Area Development ?
Anyone know anything about this ?
http://web.me.com/magsecret/magdalenasecret.com/Welcome.html
I can think of a few reasons not to own down there...
1. Flies...alot of flies.
2. Mexican army patrols in the channels.
3. Gringo hassles in Constitution.
4. Hurricanes ripping through the area every few years.
Your thoughts welcome...
[Edited on 8-3-2010 by ElFaro]
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Cypress
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Good fishing?
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b1
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Mag Bay covers a lot of area. Where in Mag Bay is this supposed to be going in? b1
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durrelllrobert
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how about another pie in the sky. this is really bizarre
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=...
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Bob Durrell
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flyfishinPam
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Here's another reason not do do business with this developer
This refers to my compañero Waterkeeper, Julio Solis-
"Unfortunately, Magdalena Bay faces a host of threats including urban and industrial pollution, poaching and overfishing, and destruction of habitat
from massive scale tourism development. On December 14, 2005, developer Magdalena Secret submitted a document to the General Directorate of Risk and
Environmental Impact to assess the environmental impacts of nine hotels, two golf courses and a series of tourism-related developments slated for
construction. This development was planned for an area of critical mangrove and dune habitat.
Despite threats to his life and a process that allowed no public commentary, Vigilantes and researchers reviewed the environmental
impact statement and discovered grave impacts to the environment, along with erroneous and deficient information. Julio pursued the matter with the
government and held meetings directly with the developers. As a result, plans for the project were rescinded late last year. This
campaign was a tremendous victory in the protection of the Bay and has provided momentum and hope to other communities fighting against a rising tide
of inappropriate development in Baja California."
http://www.seeturtles.org/1173/meet-the-guides-julio-solis.h...
please let's keep lines of communication open regarding the dirty tricks these developers use
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wilderone
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"... plans for the project were rescinded late last year"
interesting. I found the following on the internet, posted by the wife of the investment salesman in Feb. 2010, and they state construction will
start in March 2010. (Note the spelling of "Baha" - geez). There is very little info online about Ed Eudis; Casey Adamson also appears to be
connected to the property investment biz.
Spencer Iacono’s Experience
Marketing/Sales
Magdalena Secret
(Investment Management industry)
April 2009 — Present
I help people with 401k/IRA programs, who want to stop the bleeding, redirect them to our Magdalena Secret investment program.
Magdalena Secret is a resort being built in Baha Mexico. Here is our investment plan: http://web.me.com/magsecret/magdalenasecret.com/Pricing.html
Friday, February 5, 2010
Magdalena Bay
Wednesday we headed up to Magdalena Bay, with Ed, to check out the property for the resort he is building called Magdalena Secret. The permit for
building has officially gone through and the building starts at the beginning of March. Spencer got to see it last April, so I was pretty excited to
see it for myself. one word. Wow.
So, it's about a 4 hour drive north of Cabo. We get to drive through Todo Santos and La Paz, and then we stay the night in Constitucion. . . . The
property that Ed owns at Magdalena Bay is, right now, a 40 minute drive through a cactus jungle, on a dirt road. And then there is the exploration of
the property which covers 2 miles of undiscovered beach and 900,000 sq.ft of land. ( I can't remember the acreage). So we decided to start early the
next morning and spend the day there. . . . The plans Ed has for this place is truly exceptional. The villas, bungalows, and casitas that are going
up, will be first class, 5 star, GRADE A, top of the line, choicest places on EARTH to spend any vacation. And I can't wait to live there.
p.s. There are a few more lots for sale. FYI. If you purchase one, your return on investment will be 1.2 million dollars in 10 years.
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bajalera
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Of course it will. And the face lotion I buy with all that money is guaranteed to make me look 32 again.
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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surfer jim
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Donald Trump at it again....all they need to do is dig a BIG hole....stick some rebar in it ....put up some billboards and hold the "pre sale" sales
event. 
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woody with a view
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as long as a turd filled river is not a stone's throw away, it might have a chance.....
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalera
Of course it will. And the face lotion I buy with all that money is guaranteed to make me look 32 again. |
You mean you're not really 32 ?
When you told me a few years ago, and I actually did see you at a gettogether at BMG's, I kind of thought you looked older then you proclaimed. But, I
put it off on women's prerogative. 
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
I kind of thought you looked older then you proclaimed. |
No wonder they call you the 'Silver Tongued Devil'.
I think the world is run by C- students.
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wilderone
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I emailed Casey Adamson and asked a few questions. Here is his reply.
"Thank you for the email. I have broken down your questions to make sure that I have answered them all:
Hello - learned about this plan.
How and where did you learn about us? We are currently using a few different marketing tools. I am curious as to how exactly you came across our
project.
Do you have all environmental reports, reviews and clearances?
Yes. It took us around 5 years.
Isn't this an important turtle hatchery region?
This area has five endangered turtles, none of which lay eggs on our approved area.
Do you have sewer, water, trash disposal plans as well?
Yes
If so, what are they?
Our sewer is a complete self-contained unit that treats water to 98% affluent and is reused on our landscaping.
Water is sea water de-sal plant is a powered by solar and wind.
We are completely off grid. Solar, wind. and small back up generators planned for each unit.
Trash will be separated and recycled.
Is this project "sustainable" in the sense that any development of this size in an ecologically sensitive habitat such as coastal Baja California
should be?
Our goal is to be completely "sustainable" and a model development for future construction in Baja. In addition we desire to work with environmental
agencies to help clean up and assist local officials to patrol misuse. We hope to work with several environmental agencies to come up with a
sustainable plan for the estuary's and bay regarding sport fishing, protection of endangered species, creating new habitat for nesting, hatcheries,
and land erosion. If you know this area for years abuses have taken their toll.
Our environmental mission statement is:
Mission Statement
El Comienzo is dedicated to building a sustainable community and environment one home, one beach, one estuary, one bay and one ocean at a time.
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