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Gypsy Jan
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Sorry Dennis
No can do.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Natalie Ann
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Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
That glue commercial is fabulous Nena!! How did you ever find that? |
Sent to me by a friend and fellow member of a spiritual group, Ken.
She said it reminded her of the amusement with which I approach religion.
nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack JoeSpirituality has almost nothing to do with morality. Morality has to do with our roots in survival as a
species. Every species with a social order has a sense of right and wrong and it has to do with supporting themselves as a group. That makes more
sense to me than a God given conscience that keeps us on track as taught by the church. TW, you have separated yourself from the religion but not from
it's teachings. |
Igor I fully agree that morality has been demonstrated in many primate species. However I emphatically disagree that we get our morality from the
teachings of religion, especially the popular religions. Where exactly is the morality in a religion that advocates slavery (Leviticus 25:44),
permits selling your daughter into slavery (Exodus 21:7), killing people for working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), and killing your children for
talking back to you (Leviticus 20:9, Exodus 21:15 and 17)? |
The earliest full version of the Christian new testament is now posted free on line. It's not all intact- but hey... it's old. Some old testament
chapters too. The original language is Arabic I think. You enter by chapter and verse to see the subtle differences from contemporary bibles. Also
interesting to read the books the catholic church edited out over time. If you thought ancestry.com can kill an afternoon- don't even click on this
link:
http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/
[Edited on 8-15-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Ken Bondy
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Quote: | Originally posted by WooooshThe first written bible is now posted free on line. It's not all intact- but hey... they're old scrolls. The
original language is Arabic I think. You enter by chapter and verse to see the subtle differences from contemporary bibles. Also interesting to read
the gospels the church edited out over time. If you thought ancestry.com can kill an afternoon- don't even click on this link:
http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/ |
Woooosh the original language of the old testament was Hebrew and the original language of the new testament was Greek.
carpe diem!
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Where exactly is the morality in a religion that advocates ...
killing your children for talking back to you (Leviticus 20:9, Exodus 21:15 and 17)? |
Well I have to say it's tempting.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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God...Who started this?
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Ken Bondy
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Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
God...Who started this? |
Wait....didn't he start everything??? Just kidding, I think I started it. Would it help if I said I was sorry?
carpe diem!
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SDRonni
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Skipjack, that was hilarious!
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BFS
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jajaja
Nena!!!! Thats a funny ad. Perfect and appropriate for a sunday morning. Church is blown out today...
bfs
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TMW
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Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
God...Who started this? |
Wait....didn't he start everything??? Just kidding, I think I started it. Would it help if I said I was sorry? |
No, you have to stay until the bitter end and take what punishment the Almighty hands out. Perhaps take away your scuba camera.
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Ken Bondy
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Quote: | Originally posted by TW
Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
God...Who started this? |
Wait....didn't he start everything??? Just kidding, I think I started it. Would it help if I said I was sorry? |
No, you have to stay until the bitter end and take what punishment the Almighty hands out. Perhaps take away your scuba camera.
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Oh please, not THAT!!! He (she) will have to rip it out of my cold dead hands.
carpe diem!
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MsTerieus
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Quote: | Originally posted by Natalie Ann
Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
That glue commercial is fabulous Nena!! How did you ever find that? |
Sent to me by a friend and fellow member of a spiritual group, Ken.
She said it reminded her of the amusement with which I approach religion.
nena |
Ya know, I THINK I remember seeing that ad on TV (network). I'm surprised
that it was allowed!
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wessongroup
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Thinking About Time Before the Big Bang
http://www.universetoday.com/15051/thinking-about-time-befor...
for discussion? ... or genesis of additional thought ? ...
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Mexicorn
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Ah yea!
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Mexitron
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Another way to think about time is to imagine that the present moment is the genesis of time and that the past and future emanate outwards...that is,
the past and future are constructs, in a way...we tend to think of time and space as causal and linear (in non-quantum states) but perhaps it isn't
quite as it seems...great stuff to ponder...
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wessongroup
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helps to some degree in thinking about "our" life, in the scope of "things"... so to speak...
did not mean to hijack rather think a positive thought about the individual who's time ...... well thats the thought... there are other possibilities
as we don't really know everything yet.... least I don't think so
ultimately infinity=infinity
so we have some time.... we might meet again... its not goodbye, rather "see ya"
[Edited on 8-16-2010 by wessongroup]
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: | Originally posted by SDRonni
Skipjack, that was hilarious! |
Oh good. I hope that gets me off the hook about my feet.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Oh good. I hope that gets me off the hook about my feet.
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Most men I know will only talk about their inches.
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Marc
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It was all so easy in '69. God, I miss the smell of napalm in the morning!
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