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[*] posted on 11-28-2010 at 01:07 PM


It's just plain dumb to continue the current laws regarding pot. Who benefits from the illegalization of pot? The alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, drug cartels and the law enforcement industry will be the biggest losers if pot is legalized. Big money is being spent on keeping a harmless drug illegal.
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[*] posted on 11-28-2010 at 01:27 PM


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auto parts analogy? are there auto parts cartels? i think you are wrong. alcohol and nicotine are legal and don't have significant black markets.


I don't know what you mean by "Significant" but I've seen San Diego police confiscate Duty Free cigarettes from a couple of homeless guys selling them on the streets to make a couple of bucks. All they had was a few cartons, but it turned into a Natzee cop issue.
Right, wrong or indifferent, it gave me a bad feeling to see this.
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[*] posted on 11-28-2010 at 01:45 PM


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denny boy:
auto parts analogy? are there auto parts cartels? i think you are wrong. alcohol and nicotine are legal and don't have significant black markets.


I don't know what you mean by "Significant" but I've seen San Diego police confiscate Duty Free cigarettes from a couple of homeless guys selling them on the streets to make a couple of bucks. All they had was a few cartons, but it turned into a Natzee cop issue.
Right, wrong or indifferent, it gave me a bad feeling to see this.


denny boy: sounds like you discovered a MASSIVE cartel right in my fair city! a cartel run by homeless! how carefully tey hide their money!

and one of the city of san diego top cops is a smoker, the worst type: i often see him driving my street. i have several times seen him litter by throwing his cig butts out his window while driving.

now i know where he buys his black market cigs. or does he just bust balls and take cigs from homeless?
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[*] posted on 11-28-2010 at 01:50 PM


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i often see him driving my street. i have several times seen him litter by throwing his cig butts out his window while driving.



NowNow, Goat....You shouldn't be divulging your stalking hobby on a public forum. It may be bad for your defense.
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[*] posted on 11-28-2010 at 03:01 PM


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It's just plain dumb to continue the current laws regarding pot. Who benefits from the illegalization of pot? The alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, drug cartels and the law enforcement industry will be the biggest losers if pot is legalized. Big money is being spent on keeping a harmless drug illegal.


Well, of course. What can you expect when the inmates are running the asylum for the dumb? :light::(

Where are the tax revolutionaries on this issue? On the wrong side of the issue, d'ya think? (sigh). Oh well, Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels will straighten it out. :rolleyes::lol:




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[*] posted on 11-28-2010 at 03:14 PM
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It's just plain dumb to continue the current laws regarding pot. Who benefits from the illegalization of pot? The alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, drug cartels and the law enforcement industry will be the biggest losers if pot is legalized. Big money is being spent on keeping a harmless drug illegal.


How about obscenely immense amount of money. Just think how many people make their livelihood either directly or indirectly from this so-called war.

Not to mention the zealots. Did you see where Willie Nelson got busted the other day? His tour bus is driving along I-10 near Van Horn TX where there's been a Border Patrol checkpoint for years. The friggin' Border Patrol busted him. The checkpoint is not exactly near the border. Anyone but a blind man would recognize the bus. Anyone really think that Willie would be transporting illegals? It was like shooting fish in a barrel. But geez. The Border Patrol? When do they start doing door to door searches of our homes?
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[*] posted on 11-28-2010 at 03:29 PM


As if a real drug smuggler would go there! Those off border check points are an insult. The only thing they do is harass people.
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[*] posted on 11-28-2010 at 03:35 PM


I absolutely agree. Reminds me that last month, we got checked on I-5 by San Onofre. I hadn't seen that checkpoint open in years. I thought they had basically closed it because of the massive traffic volume between San Diego and LA.
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[*] posted on 11-29-2010 at 07:23 AM


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Originally posted by DianaT
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Originally posted by Ken Bondy
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Originally posted by DENNIS
Legalization won't be a cure-all. I'll use "auto parts" as an example. They're legal, of course, but there's a thriving black market for them.
Drugs will be subject to effective marketing. Sell at a lower price than the legal source and business will boom.

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[Edited on 11-28-2010 by DENNIS]


Like everything else in life, DENNIS, you weigh the pluses and the minuses. Nothing is pure black, nothing pure white, only shades of gray. Legalization, while perhaps not perfect, is clearly the best option we have.


Well said----and yes, there will probably still be a black market, just like there is for cigarettes and "legal" drugs, AKA prescription meds that come from both Canada and Mexico.

It takes out the BiG money. And it would save A LOT of money in California with a HUGE reduction in the prison population as so many of the crimes are all about drugs---selling of them or doing crimes to support the habits.

But, on the other side, there are way too many people in high places making way too much money on both sides of the border who do not want to stop the "war". It is very profitable to many.
The prison lobby is one of the main organizations pushing for stiffer drug laws.
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