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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
No tourist cards required for.....
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We're losing everything in the translation. Nothing has changed and those who were right are still right and those who were wrong are still wrong.
You need an FMM [or whatever it is] if you are in country for more than 72 hours/one week.
You need an Fmm at the time that you cross the line below Maneadero or wherever the hell it is and the line below San Felipe.
Why has this age-old regulation become so muddled? It hasn't changed.
When all else fails, make an appeal to our Ambassador, David K.
His Excellency will get your stuff all straightened out. 
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[Edited on 12-5-2010 by DENNIS]
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bajaguy
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Amen, Brother
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
No tourist cards required for.....
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We're losing everything in the translation. Nothing has changed and those who were right are still right and those who were wrong are still wrong.
You need an FMM [or whatever it is] if you are in country for more than 72 hours/one week.
You need an Fmm at the time that you cross the line below Maneadero or wherever the hell it is and the line below San Felipe.
Why has this age-old regulation become so muddled? It hasn't changed.
When all else fails, make an appeal to our Ambassador, David K.
His Excellency will get your stuff all straightened out.
[Edited on 12-5-2010 by DENNIS] |
Just get the card!!!!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I went in to a Chase Bank in California when we got back. They refused to transact business.  |
You're supposed to wait three years before Chase will handle it.
Don't forget, now.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Just get the card!!!! |
No sht. Why is this so difficult to comprehend.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Just get the card!!!! |
No sht. Why is this so difficult to comprehend. |
I think it's a philosophical thing. DK has complained about it over and over. It should be free, says he. Methinks there still exists a superiority
thing by gringos. After all, it's only Mexico.
Why don't you go check and see what the US charges for a tourist visa. Here-
http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1263.html
Cheapest is $149. And guess what? You pay up front. If you are denied, they keep your money anyway.
[Edited on 12-6-2010 by Bajahowodd]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I think it's a philosophical thing. DK has complained about it over and over. It should be free, says he. Methinks there still exists a superiority
thing by gringos. After all, it's only Mexico.
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Well....that's has to be it. DK is a Racial Supremicist. I always had that hunch. Guess I've been right all along.
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socalrat
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
No tourist cards required for.....
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We're losing everything in the translation. Nothing has changed and those who were right are still right and those who were wrong are still wrong.
You need an FMM [or whatever it is] if you are in country for more than 72 hours/one week.
You need an Fmm at the time that you cross the line below Maneadero or wherever the hell it is and the line below San Felipe.
Why has this age-old regulation become so muddled? It hasn't changed.
When all else fails, make an appeal to our Ambassador, David K.
His Excellency will get your stuff all straightened out.
[Edited on 12-5-2010 by DENNIS] |
Just get the card!!!! |
will get the cards; me, the wife, and a international health certificate for the dog.
going to try the Mexican Consulate here in Los Angeles first. (wife is German, here on Green Card, so it could be complicated) If that doesn't work,
we will stop in Calexico Consulate or the IMM(?) office in Mexicali. (assuming I can park the trailer and FJ).
thanks!
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mcfez
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My wife is German too! Green card and all! Sisters?
You wont have a issue with her.....we dont.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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socalrat
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
My wife is German too! Green card and all! Sisters?
You wont have a issue with her.....we dont. |
Got the dog from the Netherlands; was easier bringing the puppy into the country than the wife on more than one trip, when she had a student visa.
Overall, I'm guessing we would have zero problems even without the FMM and health certificate. But it makes no sense not to take care of it and be
sure..
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Not picking sides here.......
But David...don't you drive on the beach at Shell beach all the time? Been many pictures of you and hell a lot of other BN doing this.
So we all break laws, my point simple. It's what laws we choose to break...
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YES.. that is my point... despite what Dennis and Woody think, I am not an ambassador or the other things... I just love the place, and I do break
some laws (speeding, beach driving, clams... but that is pretty rare).
I don't speed around towns where any people could be hurt, I don't drive in turtle nesting zones or where people are enjoying the beach in front of
towns, I have only collected some clams for personal consumption and not in the past 6 years.
I use common sense and logic and do not believe in a babysitter ********** to control lives or rob freedoms... I am 53 years old, a grandfather, self
employed, enjoy people and do my best to be friendly to anyone...
I have tried many times to make nice with the few ******, and there doesn't seem to be much else I can do. I would like to have a beer with Dennis,
Woody, Diana, and any others who don't think I am a nice guy or don't think I should be posting about Baja (on a Baja message forum even)...? I don't
know very many people who have met me, spent any time to get to know me, and who then dislike me.
If they enjoy speaking bad about me, I **** ***** **** **** ***** have better things to do. I have never 'attacked' anyone on the Internet and only
get accused of that after I have been defensive following another's post.
Confusing knowledge with arrogance is another thing. Because I know something and provide an answer shouldn't be confused with arrogance... it is my
way of helping and keeping this forum the best place for Baja information. Why the spelling of PLACE names (not all spelling) is important to keep
this a true source for Baja travel information.
I do not know all about Baja... I won't be alive long enough for that! I do have an interest in history and natural beauty of Baja and I am pretty
current on northern Baja... where I travel more. That's all...
So, I am just a regular guy trying to survive and yet still enjoy life... I am sorry if I write in a way that comes across poorly. But, you can ask
the people who post here that spent some time with me, and they will probably tell you I am just a passionate Baja nut who likes to help others have
fun in Baja.
I want all Nomads to enjopy life and enjoy Baja... that is why we are here, I thought? |
David....
You think most of us needed this rebuttal from you? Hell dude...we know the facts already about you. In other words...no need to defend yourself, my
friend 
[Edited on 12-6-2010 by BajaNomad]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
(now before one of them jumps in and says I am telling people how to post... I am not, it isn't my forum. I am just making a suggestion for happiness
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I think you have multiple personalities.
Today you're Father David.
Tomorrow......David the Anarchist. [we don't obey no stinkin laws]
Next day........Good Shepherd David
And the next..........
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Just get the card!!!! |
No sht. Why is this so difficult to comprehend. |
I think it's a philosophical thing. DK has complained about it over and over. It should be free, says he. Methinks there still exists a superiority
thing by gringos. After all, it's only Mexico.
Why don't you go check and see what the US charges for a tourist visa. Here-
http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1263.html
Cheapest is $149. And guess what? You pay up front. If you are denied, they keep your money anyway.
[Edited on 12-6-2010 by Bajahowodd] |
I didnt know this! What a rip! Insane to charge this amount....or any amount. So a great deal of Mexican citizens would never be able to visit the
USA. Smart freaking plan...idiots.
Just like "camping fees" in Ca or anywhere USA......many camps are outdated, unkempt, and you NEVER see a Ranger (like Salt Point, Ca). Fees for what?
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
There's got to be more to do on Punta Banda than pick on me on Nomad, right? |
No.
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DENNIS
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I mean....I don't get it. One minute you advocate ignoring immigration requirements, [in a post which you deleted] the next minute you justify
speeding on public roads, and when you're called on it, you revert to your pathetic victimization profile.
"All I want to do is help people. Why is everybody picking on me? Let me show some of my ancient party pictures."
Oh well....you'll never get it either.
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[Edited on 12-6-2010 by DENNIS]
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sancho
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With all the peeing on the other guys zorries, now there is a word, the answer to 'there must be nothing
to do in P Banda than pick on Nomads', hilarious, good stuff,
one can always watch to see if the Carnival Cruise
shjps are on time. Plus you can go to the Pearlman
Theatre or dig a hole on the beach and sit
is the thermal water that fills it up
[Edited on 12-6-2010 by sancho]
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
With all the peeing on the other guys zorries, now there is a word, the answer to 'there must be nothing
to do in P Banda than pick on Nomads', hilarious,
one can always watch to see if the Carnival Cruise
shjps are on time |
May I come with you? I'll bring Spam sandwiches for our lunch.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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ElFaro
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Spanish, no clue? Sorry, but I get by pretty well with Spanish... Many years in school as well as a life time of practice... |
Since you brought it up and you have taken it upon yourself to post Baja historical information here on this site...primarily road log tabulations.
I'm curious...how well do you speak, read, and write Spanish? How much schooling have you had in the Spanish language...beginning, intermediate, or
advanced ?
And how much immersion in the Spanish language have you placed yourself in ?
I ask because after monitoring your posts over the years I have virtually never seen anything you have posted on historical Baja information that
references Spanish sources you have personally read and quoted.
Here's another question for ya in the same vain...Did Howard Gulick speak fluent Spanish ? 
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ElFaro
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Spanish, no clue? Sorry, but I get by pretty well with Spanish... Many years in school as well as a life time of practice... |
Since you brought it up and you have taken it upon yourself to post Baja historical information here on this site...primarily road log tabulations.
I'm curious...how well do you speak, read, and write Spanish? How much schooling have you had in the Spanish language...beginning, intermediate, or
advanced ?
And how much immersion in the Spanish language have you placed yourself in ?
I ask because after monitoring your posts over the years I have virtually never seen anything you have posted on historical Baja information that
references Spanish sources you have personally read and quoted.
Here's another question for ya in the same vain...Did Howard Gulick speak fluent Spanish ? |
This question applies to everyone here! DavidK, Dennis, Bubba or whoever....need not explain themselves to you or anyone else. Ask me if I am
qualified to write stuff here. You'll get my answer like a swift kick in the pants.
".....monitoring" ? Oh Gods!  Who are you, the ol great one? Your Lighthouse
aint too bright today.
[Edited on 12-6-2010 by mcfez]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ElFaro
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Spanish, no clue? Sorry, but I get by pretty well with Spanish... Many years in school as well as a life time of practice... |
Since you brought it up and you have taken it upon yourself to post Baja historical information here on this site...primarily road log tabulations.
I'm curious...how well do you speak, read, and write Spanish? How much schooling have you had in the Spanish language...beginning, intermediate, or
advanced ?
And how much immersion in the Spanish language have you placed yourself in ?
I ask because after monitoring your posts over the years I have virtually never seen anything you have posted on historical Baja information that
references Spanish sources you have personally read and quoted.
Here's another question for ya in the same vain...Did Howard Gulick speak fluent Spanish ? |
Well, afterall this is an English language web site created by an American for anyone to share and learn about Baja travel. We speak English here, so
that is why my posts are in English.
I have had Spanish in middle and high school (5 years total)as well as a class in college... I find that I enjoy best speaking with my Spanish
speaking friends more than classroom study in order to learn. I wish I could become more fluent...
Either Spanish sources have been translated or the volumes done by English speaking authors have covered the past very well. Any Mexican publications
produced I have seen have been very badly researcned and are riffe with errors.
I was only about 10 when I met Howard Gulick, he has passed away... I do not know for sure... but since he talked with so many ranchers and others in
Baja for data on roads and the El Camino Real, I would assume his Spanish was pretty good.
Buenas Noches!
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