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tehag
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That head probably came from a Baja California gopher snake. Non-venomous. Won't bite unless handled.
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Quote: | Originally posted by tehag
That head probably came from a Baja California gopher snake. Non-venomous. Won't bite unless handled. |
Do they have fangs or teeth?
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didn't see any fangs. i was BUMMED when i came back. the body was gone but the head was right were it detached..... the boys put it in my fire pit and
it went up in smoke that night.
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Too bad about the beheaded snake. A lot of people seem to want to cut off snakes heads. I wonder what that's all about. I don't necessarily like
snakes but I also don't have the urge the head off when I see one. Why not just leave them alone? Or if they're being a problem, relocate them.
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I agree it looks like a golpher snake. A coral is has red, yellow and black markings. "Red to yellow, kill a fellow; red to black, venom lack," is a
saying you can go by. But I wouldn't kill it just move it. Coral has red to yellow. A king snake for example does not, they may look similar but are
not.
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David K
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Wow... and gopher snakes keep rattlesnakes away, too.
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Quote: | Originally posted by TW
I agree it looks like a golpher snake. A coral is has red, yellow and black markings. "Red to yellow, kill a fellow; red to black, venom lack," is a
saying you can go by. But I wouldn't kill it just move it. Coral has red to yellow. A king snake for example does not, they may look similar but are
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WOW.....I hope I don't get this confused with, "Red sky in the morning......blahblahblah."
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Wow... and gopher snakes keep rattlesnakes away, too. |
I think we are conditioned by our parents and peers at an early age that "Snakes are bad." No further snake education and this is what happens. Too
bad, but not completely senseless. It's a consequence of our abbreviated education on snakes.
There is plenty of free, illustrated material online to further our snake familiarization and it should be high on the list of things to do before
entering their habitat.
That's what the Dalai Lama would do.
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The beheaded snake does look like a gopher snake for sure and yes, the triangular shaped head is usually a dead give away for a poisonous snake. I
also just read that mountain king snakes (which look a lot like a coral snake with opposite banding) and California king snakes are immune to the
venom of a rattlesnake and actually will eat them. Of course , I am sure that is a size relationship appropriate statement.
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While running up Strawberry Canyon just above the UC Berkeley campus a few years back I almost ran over a Rattler. It was coiled up in the middle of
the path like he owned it. I guess he did!
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Did you eat that dinner?
My Dad used to take my brother and me hiking/camping up into the San Gabriel Mountains......in the Mt Wilson range. Once in a while we come across a
rattler. If it was on the trail...we just use a "Y" tree branch to secure the little beast....then throw him over the side of the trail. If a snake
was in our camp area.....dinner.
Snake is a real treat to eat.
Here's a link on some deep fried cooking of snake:
http://www.wikihow.com/Cook-a-Snake
If you ever had deep fried gator...its bout the same.
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There is or was a meat market in Ramona near San Diego that sells rattlesnake meat. It's about $20/lb. Comes skinned, coiled and frozen. No head.
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Iowa Meats in San Diego (Mission Gorge Rd. near I-8) and Tip Top Meats in Carlsbad (just off Palomar Airport Rd. by I-5) both sell 'exotic' meat... I
didn't see rattlesnake, but you could call and ask or maybe 'special order' some?
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Quote: | Originally posted by TW
There is or was a meat market in Ramona near San Diego that sells rattlesnake meat. It's about $20/lb. Comes skinned, coiled and frozen. No head.
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Chicken is a LOT cheaper!!! and it has no head either.
Barry
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Chicken is a LOT cheaper!!! and it has no head either.
Barry |
At least not a head with anything in it.
[I just know that's what you meant, Barry......]
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Quote: | Originally posted by TW
There is or was a meat market in Ramona near San Diego that sells rattlesnake meat. It's about $20/lb. Comes skinned, coiled and frozen. No head.
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Chicken is a LOT cheaper!!! and it has no head either.
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and apparently it tastes just like rattlesnake!
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I had a Choc Lab up untill a month ago, he had a breathing problem, so I had to take him from us, I really loved that Dog.
I took him to a Rattlesnake School in Julian, they use live Rattlesnakes with cones it is really worth it to take your Dog to a School, they will
definitely avoid any snakes after this course.
The course is about 45min the cost use to be $60.00
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Quote: | Originally posted by fishingmako
I had a Choc Lab up untill a month ago, he had a breathing problem, so I had to take him from us, I really loved that Dog.
I took him to a Rattlesnake School in Julian, they use live Rattlesnakes with cones it is really worth it to take your Dog to a School, they will
definitely avoid any snakes after this course.
The course is about 45min the cost use to be $60.00 |
First, so sorry for your loss. That decision is the most difficult, heartbreaking thing I can think of.
Very good info you've shared. I've been wondering what to do about this rattlesnake issue. I wear snake guards but worry all the time about my dog.
I've already looked up a couple schools and sent emails for more info. I'm also checking into the vaccine, you can't be too careful when it comes to
your loved ones.
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The first time I ever saw a dog that had been bitten by a rattlesnake was in northern California - it was my next door neighbor's dog and her vet told
her to give the dog aspirin and just let it be. The dog developed a large sack under its neck - kind of like what you would imagine a goiter to look
like on a dog - it really took it easy for a day, resting and sleeping, and then it was fine, back to its usual self - and the sack disappeared.
Since then, I have seen 2 other dogs here in BCS that were bitten by rattlesnakes - they both also developed the sack under the neck thing and were
given aspirin and also an antihistamine. It also took them about a day to recover.
Just putting this out there, FYI, if ever you are far from a vet and your dog has the misfortune to be bitten by a rattler, you might want to try this
- that's what I'd do.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Baja Bucko
I sold a bird dog pup a couple of yrs ago to a man in socal. First hunting season was near El Centro. Within the hour the poor dog was
snake-bit-nailed by what turned out to be the new "dreaded" mix-a cross between a Mohave Green and the pacific I believe, that's what the vet and DFG
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in 10 years of chukar and quail hunting in eastern Kern county with my German short Hair, we never came across a sidewinder or a Mohave green, even
though the local clinc kept a supply of anti-venom for both. However, I once came across an open tackle box with a used snake bite kit in it alongside
a creek. The tackle box had the owners name on it and I took his rod/reel and box to the clinc in Ridgecrest to inquire if they ha a snake bit case
and was told "yes, a Mojave green biet 3 days ago and the patient was dismissed a day later"
Bob Durrell
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