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durrelllrobert
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Let's see - @ 8 pesos per 16x8x8 block stacked 8 foot high = 96 pesos ( or about $8) every 16 " + mortar, rebar, cement and a bunch of labor Vs about
$5 for a metal stud every 16" and very little labor. Me, I'll go for the steel studs @ 16 " centers every time and they dont warp, twist, spit, get
eaten by termites or burn. Same goes for metal roof trusses; you can go a much longer span for alot less $ than wood. also, metal studs are light
enough to haul in your truck and won't break on bumpy roads.
[Edited on 12-21-2010 by durrelllrobert]
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drzura
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"Let's see - @ 8 pesos per 16x8x8 block stacked 8 foot high = 96 pesos ( or about $8) every 16 " + mortar, rebar, cement and a bunch of labor Vs about
$5 for a metal stud every 16" and very little labor. Me, I'll go for the steel studs @ 16 " centers every time and they dont warp, twist, spit, get
eaten by termites or burn. Same goes for metal roof trusses; you can go a much longer span for alot less $ than wood. also, metal studs are light
enough to haul in your truck and won't break on bumpy roads"
So how would the construction go... with a metal stud every 16", is concrete block still used for the wall or styrofoam with chicken wire and
concrete?
[Edited on 12-21-2010 by drzura]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by drzura
So how would the construction go... with a metal stud every 16", is concrete block still used for the wall or styrofoam with chicken wire and
concrete?
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No. Wood or metal frame...same thing.
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drzura
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by drzura
So how would the construction go... with a metal stud every 16", is concrete block still used for the wall or styrofoam with chicken wire and
concrete?
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No. Wood or metal frame...same thing. |
I understand the frame would be metal or wood, but the actual wall would be made from the new styrofoam reinforced with chicken wire then covered with
shot crete? About how much would it cost to construct a 900 square foot home in your estimation? I have a friend that would be able to help me with
the actual construction.
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DENNIS
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I think you're mixing different construction procedures. Here's some steel work:
http://tinyurl.com/2fcccnr
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longlegsinlapaz
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drzura, to see progress pics from the ground up using conventional block construction techniques, to go:
http://www.talkbaja.com/showthread.php?&t=82
To see progress pics from the ground up using interlocking foam block construction techniques, to go:
http://www.talkbaja.com/showthread.php?&t=447
I don't recall anyone having documented their construction using the metal stud and/or wire-wrapped foam panel method, but I'm sure there are product
manufacturers websites showing the process.
I think it'd be in your best interest to research materials best suited for weather conditions for the area you're going to build. Also check cost
& availability of various materials in that particular area.
Order of availability, or ease in getting materials in Santa Rosalia will most likely be:
(1) Cement blocks
(2) Foam blocks or foam panels
(3) Steel stud framing
If it's not available locally, you're going to be paying appreciably more for your materials due to shipping/delivery costs.
There are pros & cons for each of the different materials. You need to do some research on the structural integrity of the various materials,
insulation factors can have a huge impact on your ongoing cooling & heating costs, local workers will not be familiar with foam or steel stud
construction techniques. Materials will not be readily or rapidly available if you under-order materials or accessory supplies, which can cause work
stoppages until you can get more materials delivered.
Unless your friend is building with comparable materials & techniques in Alaska, all the wood construction experience in the world won't make him
qualified to built using other materials & techniques. Not to mention that the climate is a tad bit hotter here than the temperatures he &
you are likely used to working in. More remote areas don't use (or have!) shotcrete equipment for applying the finish plaster, it's
applied manually here.
Look at the progress pics in each of the above URL's to get an idea of techniques used with these two materials & do major research based on
location, your expectations, your budget, as well as you & your friends experience or skill levels before you decide on what materials to use
& who will be doing the bulk of the work on your casa construction.
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Gaucho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by drzura
Hello all. I was wondering if anyone in the Santa Rosalia area could give me a good ballpark figure how much cinder block costs (the size of the
cinder block at Home Depot: 16" x 7.625" x7.625"). I am trying to price out building a casita that is about 950 square feet, made up of about 1128
cinder blocks. I have a friend that builds houses up in Alaska, so he would be able to give me a hand building the structure. I would need to hire a
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If you're interested in foam panels this is a good website to check out. The panels are made in Mexicali (no duty) and have distributers in BCS.
http://www.tridipanel.com.mx/contents/ingles/index.htm
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We used the cinder blocks in construction and really like how it came out. All the walls were supported with rebar and filled. The porous cinder block
sticks together much better than the standard cement blocks IMHO. Found that out after wanting to remove a row that was laid the day before. Not
nearly as easy as prior jobs using cement blocks.
After the big Mexicali quake a few months back, all my neighbors with the standard cement blocks showed some cracks around the house. Not a single one
in ours.
Of course a good maestro is the key ingredient...
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by drzura
So how would the construction go... with a metal stud every 16", is concrete block still used for the wall or styrofoam with chicken wire and
concrete?
[Edited on 12-21-2010 by drzura] |
dura rock (yellow board) comes in /2" x 4' x 8' sheets and is screwed directly to the metal studs then the joints are taped (like drywall), a thin
coat of stucco like cement is applied and after that dries a very thincoat of colored stucco is applied.
Bob Durrell
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Does anyone have any information on the Tridipanels that Gaucho mentions = anyone ever built with them in Baja? Costs vs. block method?
Gracias.
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