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35 zoo animals freeze to death in northern Mexico
Another great human idea....Zoos 
IUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Thirty-five animals at a zoo in the northern Mexico state of Chihuahua have frozen to death during the region's coldest weather
in six decades.
Serengeti Zoo owner Alberto Hernandez says 14 parrots, 13 serpents, five iguanas, two crocodiles and a capuchin monkey died. He said Saturday that
power failures cut off electrical heating at the zoo in the town of Aldama.
Temperatures have dropped to 9 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 13 Celsius) in the area, the coldest weather in 60 years.
Power outages have affected much of northern Mexico, forcing factories and businesses to close. Dozens of people are in shelters. Schools have been
closed in Chihuahua state but are expected to open Tuesday as the weather warms.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Unfortunate, But ...........
As they say, Excrement Occurs. Different wording, usually.
Freak events result in disasters all the time. People freeze to death every Winter.
And, the Zoos are a great idea for amusement and education. I (along with Millions of others) always enjoyed the Zoos as a kid and enjoyed taking my
kids as an adult.
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Yes, before zoos, people went on safari to shoot animals (with guns). Now a safari is a photo shoot. The San Diego Wild Animal Park, opened in 1976
has just been renamed The San Diego Zoo Safari Park... as if there were something wrong with 'wild animals'???
We are members of the SD Zoological society and go often... Going to the zoo again tomorrow, in fact. Of course, there is perhaps no zoo as fine as
the San Diego zoo... we are lucky here.
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I have mixed feelings about zoos. People develop an appreciation of exotic animals especially when they see them first hand. The zoo can't be a very
fun place for many of the animals though. Sorry to hear about the animals in C. Juarez. The cold must have been miserable for the animals that lived
too except for maybe a penguin if they have any.
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Everyone should try and have one... didn't Mike Tyson have a tiger... just saying..
plus he wanted two lions, but zoning in OH would go for it... only allowed on tiger...
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well they could at least eat them.
And DK - yes, safari outfitters catering to photogs are big biz these days but don't kid yourself - there remain big game shooting enthusiasts and
plenty of organized action for those with the bucks to spend. Watch outdoor channel they cover a lot of it. You can go kill many species in Africa
today. Not my cup o' tea but i would like to try some of the exotic meats.
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Elephants love the SD Zoological society?
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yes, before zoos, people went on safari to shoot animals (with guns). Now a safari is a photo shoot. The San Diego Wild Animal Park, opened in 1976
has just been renamed The San Diego Zoo Safari Park... as if there were something wrong with 'wild animals'???
We are members of the SD Zoological society and go often... Going to the zoo again tomorrow, in fact. Of course, there is perhaps no zoo as fine as
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Animals suffer from more than neglect in some zoos. When Dunda, an African elephant, was transferred from the San Diego Zoo to the San Diego Wild
Animal Park, she was chained, pulled to the ground, and beaten with ax handles for two days. One witness described the blows as "home run swings."
Such abuse may be the norm. "You have to motivate them,"
http://www.mercyforanimals.org/zoos.asp
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Lets be VERY clear about your statement here DavidK.
Not every Zoo is a "Safari Park". Your statement is amusingly misleading, no offense David.
Fact is....most Zoos are outdated and under staffed.
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Experts say S.F. Zoo exhibits outdated
February 02, 2008|By Patricia Yollin, Chronicle Staff Writer
The San Francisco Zoo is a sad and outdated place, with exhibits reminiscent of what might be found in the Third World or Eastern Europe.
That's the assessment of three international zoo experts, who visited the zoo this week at the urging of the advocacy organization In Defense of
Animals. On Friday, the group called for hearings by the Board of Supervisors on the zoo's "inhumane conditions" and lobbied for transformation of the
zoo into an animal-rescue center.
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There are hundreds of stories such as this(above). Look at the web and see.
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"....Despite their professed concern for animals, zoos remain more "collections" of interesting "items" than actual havens or simulated habitats. Zoos
teach people that it is acceptable to keep animals in captivity, bored, cramped, lonely, and far from their natural homes"
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Here's a simple education website that makes it clear to why you dont need zoos
http://www.veganpeace.com/animal_cruelty/zoos.htm
SD Zoological society accepts membership from anyone...you get a magazine and a discount to the area's attractions. .....however...most "members" are
not involved in zoo activities.
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Abuse and Neglect
Such cases seem to make the argument FOR curtailing such activities rather than an argument AGAINST Zoos themselves.
The Liberals daily argue that we can influence and control ALL Human Behavior with appropriate regulation and oversight so it seems THAT is what they
should be arguing for in this respect rather than the dissolution of the Zoos themselves.
Of course, the "Animal-Rights" Ecos are a bunch of Deranged Nut-Cases so nothing short of Animal Emancipation satisfies them.
Well, Time for some Eggs and Dead Pig.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Such cases seem to make the argument FOR curtailing such activities rather than an argument AGAINST Zoos themselves.
The Liberals daily argue that we can influence and control ALL Human Behavior with appropriate regulation and oversight so it seems THAT is what they
should be arguing for in this respect rather than the dissolution of the Zoos themselves.
Of course, the "Animal-Rights" Ecos are a bunch of Deranged Nut-Cases so nothing short of Animal Emancipation satisfies them.
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Geeze...it's MrBillM from Off Topics trying to troll. The world is so black and white to you. Only thing that belongs in a zoo is a guy like you that
thinks in such limited capacity ....you be better off in with the primate compatibility cage.
Although zoos may help save the lives of countless animals, they only do the job half way. In many cases the animals that are saved never see the
habitat with which they left ever again. It is unnecessary and unethical to keep animals that are not created to be placed in captivity caged for long
periods of time. Research has shown that animals are able to lose the will to live and have done so in the past when living in zoos. Unless a
population is near extinction it is generally unethical to enslave a sentient creature. It is our moral obligation to look through an animals point of
view and understand that they were created to be placed in the wild. The process of nature has ensured the survival of animals throughout time, even
before the existence of human beings. It has been proven that they are able to survive in the wild on their own, and so we should let this process
continue. We have the technological resource to monitor an animals success in the wild after its re-admission, and supplied the technology to learn of
animals all around the globe through computers and books. It is unnecessary to see an animal through a glass windrow that is enslaved, when you could
see that same exact animal free in Africa through a similar glass window, in a tv, or computer. Animals were created to be free.
[Edited on 2-6-2011 by mcfez]
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Speaking of Those WILD Animals ............
Did anyone else see the L.A. Times story on the Specialty Meat-Supplier in Los Angeles that is doing a BOOMING business in exotic Meat ? Including
those Lions ?
Although it doesn't make me want to go back to L.A., I DO wish there was a branch nearby. Having only had the opportunity to try Bison, Alligator and
Ostrich, I'd LOVE to taste some of the others at least once. Who knows ? There might be one of them that would make me forsake Dead Cow and Pig.
At the cost, probably not, though.
Seriously, there are as many Educated people who believe in Zoos as there are against them. I'm not alone by a longshot. IF I were, they'd be closed
rather than doing a good business. Nobody's forced to go the Zoo or Sea World.
And, it's pretty expensive, so you have to REALLY want to.
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the big animals should be protected in place, if that is even possible. poachers should be eviserated in public after a thorough pummeling by the
park rangers. all the $ in the world and they can't stop a turd from killing an elephant or gorilla to make $500?
hang the poacher high, after you gut him. maybe let the animals have a free meal?
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Zoos are a wonderful tool to educate people. They help create that warm fuzzy feeling about animals. In nature, most animals are not warm and fuzzy
they are creatures that need protection from us. Without seeing animals people would forget about them. Just sweep them under the table. Oh, don't
get me started.
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And,.......anyone wonder what hardship there was for the humans in the area when the temp hit 9 degrees? I heard they were burning tires to try and
stay warm.
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they said dozens needed shelter.
edit: like every other day of the year! 
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No excuse
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Serengeti Zoo owner Alberto Hernandez said Saturday that power failures cut off electrical heating at the zoo in the town of Aldama.
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Whoever places animals in cages is responsible for their well being, at whatever cost or inconvenience. The weather forecast was
common knowledge as well as unreliability of power. A back up plan should have been in place. This is animal cruelty and those responsible should be
removed from their positions and prosecuted.
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I agree Dave....even the most primate human could see the weather forecast and do something. Nobody did. Just nutzo stuff.
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Zoos?...no thanks. I'd much rather watch good film footage of animals in the wild. There's no shortage of that in this day and age and some of it is
outstanding. A zoo seems an antiquated notion to me...yet, a good aquarium is fascinating. It seems it's just mammals that I don't like to see
imprisoned.
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yup, Dave got it right.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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