Barbarosa
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Highway litter
A point was made about all the trash along the highway.
Now admittedly, I've got one current data point and, no doubt, a faulty memory, but my sense is that a lot of the highway is cleaner than in (distant)
years past. It seemed particularly so in Norte with plenty of work yet to do in Sur.
So, what say the collective, getting better, worse, or same-o same-o?
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Gotten much better over the years... Mexico is catching up. In the 60's Americans often threw things out of their car. Remember the Indian with a tear
commercial?
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Gotten much better over the years... Mexico is catching up.
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During the Run, I wondered aloud if they gots a bunch of incarcerated druggies in Norte for hiway cleanup. And less available free labor supply in
Sur.
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when the price of scrap steel, aluminum, etc goes thru the roof, well, need i say more?
at least they still put the city dump over the first hill, without regard to the prevailing winds......
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I think there is really little improvement myself ... highways are filthy
I don't remember the Indian with a tear ????
but I remember the slogan DON'T BE A LITTERBUG. My mom did not allow us to eat or drink in the car - so we never threw anything out the window.
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My personal observation:
1- Historically, the highways of BCS have had less litter than those of BC.
2- The problem appears to ebb and flow. Some trips, it's better; some worse.
One thing that ticks me off, or make that two- I've seen way too many dedicated turnoffs with the barrels where the barrels were stolen. And, I've
seen way too many turnoffs where the varrel was there, but people just dumped crap on the ground right next to it. Or, maybe that has something to do
with what Woody mentioned, and the scavengers just pawed through the barrel and tossed the stuff they weren't interested in on the ground.
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Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
when the price of scrap steel, aluminum, etc goes thru the roof, well, need i say more?
at least they still put the city dump over the first hill, without regard to the prevailing winds...... |
I agree, you no longer see the burned out bodies of stripped cars like you used to.
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Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
when the price of scrap steel, aluminum, etc goes thru the roof, well, need i say more?
at least they still put the city dump over the first hill, without regard to the prevailing winds...... |
X3
there is not a chunk of scrap metal to be found anywhere. even metal that is not scrap is getting scrapped.
If only there was a value for scrap plastic and broken ballenas
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there are 2 types of countries in the world: those with trash all over, and those without trash all over. mexico has yet to join the latter group.
my personal feling is that there should be 2 levels of membership in UN: litterbugs/polluters, and people that treat their sewage and dispose of
their trash. the tidy, fastidious people should have 2 votes for every vote allotted to pigs.
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I don't know about the rest of Baja, but from La Paz to Cabo, crews pick up the litter a couple of times a year. We also have the Can Man who has been
walking that highway for years picking up cans, I'm pretty sure he's made enough money to buy a house in the Pedregal by now.
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Barbarosa
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Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I don't know about the rest of Baja, but from La Paz to Cabo, crews pick up the litter a couple of times a year. We also have the Can Man who has been
walking that highway for years picking up cans, I'm pretty sure he's made enough money to buy a house in the Pedregal by now. |
Yeah. That area is clean, and can be managed by clean-up crews. There's stretches that are like landfill for wide swaths along long stretches of
highway. (Seemed like most were in the northern parts of Sur. Also seemed like Norte has had *major* cleanup of such stretches in recent years.)
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If anyone is interseted in the cleanest country, see Switzerland... A group of us went out one evening on a mission to see if we could find any trash
on the streets of Lucerne... nope, not even a cigarette butt!
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we need a proper landfill here in la bocana. if anyone has any ideas on how to go about getting permits (EIR and all the others), PLEASE enlighten
me.
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I remember some years ago asking a local Mexican friend why there was so many plastic bags hanging from cacti & trees. He responds, "because there
is no more room on the ground"! ! ! !
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See alot of crews lately cleaning up around Rosarito, cutting grass, and laying stone. Now if they would only tackle the graffiti
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Phil S - that really is funny !!!!
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Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
we need a proper landfill here in la bocana. if anyone has any ideas on how to go about getting permits (EIR and all the others), PLEASE enlighten
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landfill implies someone will dig a big hole, and slowly massage the trash into the hole until it's full.
there's gotta be a way.....
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hi Woody - because we are in the biosphere, it is a touchy issue and I really want to do it "right" ... I have asked every single human who might have
an answer who has come thru our house ... to no avail ... yet.
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