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[*] posted on 6-3-2011 at 12:46 PM
Global Commission: War on Drugs A Failure


The Global Commission on Drug Policy has just released a report finding that the "War on Drugs" is a failure.

No big surprise there, and it also isn't a surprise that both the US and Mexico rejected the Global Commission findings as misguided. The only thing misguided if you ask me is the continued fighting the losing "War on Drugs."

The report believes that some drugs that are now illegal should be legalized, and calls for the decriminalization of drug use. Amen to that because nearly half or perhaps more of our the prison inmates In the US are in prison because of drug charges, and it's probably the same in Mexico.
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Who is on the commission:

Former Paul Volcker, the former President of Colombia Cesar Gaviria, the current Prime Minister of Greece George Papandreou, former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, and the former leaders of Mexico, Colombia and Brazil.

The BBC reports:

Their report argues that anti-drug policy has failed by fuelling organised crime, costing taxpayers millions of dollars and causing thousands of deaths...."Political leaders and public figures should have the courage to articulate publicly what many of them acknowledge privately: that the evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates that repressive strategies will not solve the drug problem, and that the war on drugs has not, and cannot, be won," the report said.


The report is available here in both English and Spanish:


http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/Report
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[*] posted on 6-3-2011 at 12:56 PM


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THE BOSTON TEA PARTY !!!! That is what everyone is waiting to hear from you Joe.

All the posters need for you to answer Ole Skeets Question to You.

Comon give us a Break and Answer him.

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[*] posted on 6-3-2011 at 04:09 PM


Since Richard Nixon coined the phrase "war on drugs" it has become increasingly clear that this concept flies in the face of human nature.

I streamed an excellent discussion on the subject of this report last night on Aljazeera/English I believe. It should be archived.

I recommend it.

I found the link: http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2011/06/...

Hey Skeeter, when you sober up, did you know that Nixon was the last Republican President to leave (be thrown out of) office WITHOUT raising the federal deficit as a percentage of the GDP? Maybe if he'd had more time.....:no:

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[*] posted on 6-3-2011 at 04:37 PM


Anyone find it interesting that there was immediate push back from both the White House and the Calderon administration? Remember, Calderon went to Harvard.

The war on drugs, although started by Nixon to supposedly punish the "hippies" he believed were causing him so much grief over the Vietnam war, has taken on its own life with a combination of religious and social activists, who want to dictate how everyone should live their lives, and the stark reality that it is a multi-billion dollar cash cow for so many, mostly connected to the appropriations teat in DC .
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[*] posted on 6-3-2011 at 05:35 PM


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Remember, Calderon went to Harvard.




What degrees did he come away with? I don't know.
The right money will put Porky Pig in Harvard.
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[*] posted on 6-3-2011 at 06:23 PM
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Calling the whole thing a "War" is laughable. Wars SHOULD be Hell on the combatants.

Let's get serious.

Quickly execute EVERY person caught Dealing Drugs.

IF, after a couple of years or 10K executions (whichever comes first), we aren't making a dent in the problem, we can try a different approach.

Like my earlier idea of poisoning the supply and seeing where that gets us.
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[*] posted on 6-4-2011 at 01:53 PM


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Remember, Calderon went to Harvard.




What degrees did he come away with? I don't know.
The right money will put Porky Pig in Harvard.


Master of Public Administration in 2000 from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.

Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law.
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[*] posted on 6-4-2011 at 08:12 PM


vgabndo

Very interesting video and dialogue. Thanks for sharing this. It is clear that the "War on Drugs" is a failure, and a very expensive one for the USofA. Two Trillion dollars spent and use increases every year. Drug abuse is a medical problem and can be dealt with in that way, I have seen this with my own eyes and Portugal, Holland and the Swis provide us with excellent models. The X President of Colombia is a co-author of this report.

People seem to forget that we have gone through a similar history with Alcohol and Prohibition. The drug runners (revenuers, moonshiners and the mob in those days) became legitimate businessmen, for the most part, violence decreased and the market was highly regulated and taxed.

A point I have not heard before and it makes sense to me is the following "Do you see wine producers and alcohol manufacturers killing each other?" I saw Ron Paul address a Republican debate and as a Libertarian Conservative propose the legalization of drugs. He was met with cat calls until he asked the following question. "Ok, I want to do a pole, how many of you would use heroin if it were legalized?" No one raised their hands. Holland's experience with legalization was an immediate, though slight uptick in use followed by a decrease in use. I have talked with people living in Amsterdam who have told me that the general population sometimes gets high but the real problem is Americans who come over and spend two weeks in a state of constant marijuana use and they make fools of themselves by crashing into lamp poles etc. Sounds like Spring Break in Mexico eh? where college students from the USofA get drunk and obnoxious and then go home.

This is a public health problem and deserves to be dealt with in that way like we have with tobacco use and AIDS prevention, Immunizations etc. This is a Public Health Problem if there ever was one.

Bajahowodd,

I am old enough to remember Nixon/Agnew taking on the hippies and their drug of choice, marijuana. Nixon/ Bebe Reboso and friends all drank scotch and boy did they get loaded!! Nixon sat down with Agnew to plan their campaign for their second term and came up with the concept of a Silent Majority, code words for not Hippies, and a "War on Drugs", the particular drugs used most by the Hippies. Before this campaign strategy was emplyoyed Congress was seriously considering legalization of marijuana. Read the history of this, I am not making this up. I was alive and conscious of all of this at the time.

Public Health approaches i.e. Public Education and Social Stigma have profoundly decreased the amount of tobacco use in the USofA. People will always smoke cigarettes, even though they kill thousands of people each year. We don't lock smokers up in prison!!! We provide treatment and support for people to resolve their addiction. We provide public education and require immunizations to protect us all and certain devistating illnesses have all but disappeared i.e. polio and smallpox, which crippled and killed millions.

Social Stigma is a powerful shaper of human behavior and has been a very important part of the strategy for reducing tobacco use. Shame is a very powerful emotion and the only one that modifies other feelings. Shame has it's place and purpose and we now see smokers skulking around to have their smokes, often out in the cold. I have heard many x smokers tell me that this was a major contributor to their quitting. Shame and self loathing over their addicition and personal pride in overcoming what is probably even a harder drug to come off of than heroin.

Thanks again for this very informative and educational post.

Iflyfish
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