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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 10:34 AM


I looked under crassula for quite a while and could not find it ...but I would LOVE to do plant cutting trades, if anyone is interested ???????

Here is the first plant for cuttings I offer to whomever is interesed ... it is gorgeous and taked direct sun.






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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 10:51 AM


Wow that is a great one. I would love to trade cuttings! If anyone passes through your place on the way to San Juanico, please send some along. And I will forward some of my most interesting ones if I meet anyone heading up your way.
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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 11:02 AM


Kind of looks like Kalanchoe millotii:
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Crassulaceae/Kalancho...

But I'm thinking its a Plectranthus (ambicoinus?) although not all images of it have such succulent and fuzzy leaves as your pic CP:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/1356/

What do the flowers look like?
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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 11:25 AM


Plectranthus Amboincus it is!
Spanish Thyme, Cuban Oregano, Indian Borage.
YEAY I GET TO EAT IT.

Thanks mucho Mexitron. I have been wondering about this for a year.
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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 01:33 PM


CP that is a deal and a half. San Juanico it is for the cuttings ... maybe i can convince Les to take a day trip since you are not too far ... where is your house located? and of course, you can always visit us too !!!




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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 02:11 PM


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Fuzz covered semi-succulent leaves.


I have this plant in my herb garden. The little plant stick said it was Indian Oregano.... and my Mexican yard dude said they use it a lot in Mexico??? Whatever others might call it, sure is a nice herb to add to the cooking mix.

[Edit: cannot get the pix to show... I mean the little green plant with the sorta fuzzy leaves)

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[Edited on 6-20-2011 by Natalie Ann]




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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 08:38 PM


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CP that is a deal and a half. San Juanico it is for the cuttings ... maybe i can convince Les to take a day trip since you are not too far ... where is your house located? and of course, you can always visit us too !!!


Cuttings from a cactus is best as this: cut the piece wanted, let the fresh cut dry out first (few days). Plant.

Sometimes you get rot planting a fresh cut in the ground.




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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 09:01 PM


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Not too unusual. There are cactus such as the Candelabra Cactus....that produce leafs. .....I do not know the name of yours in the picture.


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Give this man a cigar---you found the right family with the Candelabra---Euphorbiaceae. I'm fairly sure the Genus is Monadenium and probably the species is M. ritchei


Unfortunately people confuse euphorbias and cacti so easily because horticulturalists give euphorbias names like Candelabra cactus! Oy!

FYI:

In Baja, Candelabra cactus, (Myrtillocactus cochal) is a true cactus and lacks leaves. There are a some species of cacti that do actually have leaves, one of which is found in Baja in the Cape area (Pereskiopsis porteri).

A good rule of thumb: if you see a garden plant that looks like a cactus but has no true spines (spines are thin, bristle-like and sharp; they may also occur as tiny glochid hairs in tight clusters on the stem which easily detach in your skin) and/or it sprouts leaves, then you are looking at a Euphorbia. Some species of the Euphorbiaceae (Spurge family) evolved in the deserts of Africa in habitats similar to the deserts of the Americas where the Cactus family (Cactaceae) evolved separately.

Also, all cacti are succulents, but not all succulents are cacti.

BajaBlanca, sorry but I don't know what species of cactus you have with the yellow flower. Not enough info to even start. But it definitely is a cactus. The spines and the flower design with many overlapping "petals" are the key clues.




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[*] posted on 6-21-2011 at 11:22 AM


thanks ecomujeres, at least I know it is a cactus and can start hunting cacti sites !

and I love knowing that if there is a leaf it MUST be euphorbia. geez, whoddathunk I would still be learning more good stuff every day ?

story: I once walked backed into a barrel cactus as I was getting out of the truck here at home and the pain was horrible for days on end. The locals told me it produces a toxin at the very end of the thorn ... but I read somewhere that the end of the thorn actually can stay lodged in the skin - all I know is OUCHHHHHHHHHHHH





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[*] posted on 6-21-2011 at 11:26 AM


mcfez - you are right about cuttings being able to handle time out of the dirt or sand - I get cuttings all the time and sometimes take days to get around to planting them. I usually try to plant right away and rarely have plants die on me. they get told off when they start acting up and I think they do not like Blanca Ire.

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[*] posted on 6-21-2011 at 11:39 AM


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Not too unusual. There are cactus such as the Candelabra Cactus....that produce leafs. .....I do not know the name of yours in the picture.


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Originally posted by mexitron
Give this man a cigar---you found the right family with the Candelabra---Euphorbiaceae. I'm fairly sure the Genus is Monadenium and probably the species is M. ritchei
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Unfortunately people confuse euphorbias and cacti so easily because horticulturalists give euphorbias names like Candelabra cactus! Oy!

FYI:

In Baja, Candelabra cactus, (Myrtillocactus cochal) is a true cactus and lacks leaves. There are a some species of cacti that do actually have leaves, one of which is found in Baja in the Cape area (Pereskiopsis porteri).

A good rule of thumb: if you see a garden plant that looks like a cactus but has no true spines (spines are thin, bristle-like and sharp; they may also occur as tiny glochid hairs in tight clusters on the stem which easily detach in your skin) and/or it sprouts leaves, then you are looking at a Euphorbia. Some species of the Euphorbiaceae (Spurge family) evolved in the deserts of Africa in habitats similar to the deserts of the Americas where the Cactus family (Cactaceae) evolved separately.

Also, all cacti are succulents, but not all succulents are cacti.

BajaBlanca, sorry but I don't know what species of cactus you have with the yellow flower. Not enough info to even start. But it definitely is a cactus. The spines and the flower design with many overlapping "petals" are the key clues.


The Pereskiopsis genus is interesting in that it shows, by having a more sprawling habit, an intermediate form from when tropical vines adapted to drier climates and became cactii---at least in the Americas...not sure where the xeric Euphorbias evolved from in Africa.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2012 at 12:22 PM


just an update on the "cactus with a leaf": it now has lots of leaves and it also has tiny flowers for the first time.







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[*] posted on 10-12-2012 at 12:34 PM


CP The Spanish thyme cutting yo u gave me has grown and grown and lots of people have gotten cuttings from it. I don't have a photo but I will take one. Thanks again, it is one of the most fun plants to cultivate since it grows so quickly.




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