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"A Guide to Mexico (and Baja)", From the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/travel/mexico-a-guid...
Mexico: A guide to which parts are safe to travel to, and which are dangerous
By Andrea Sachs, Published: December 16
"Shortly before Arnoldo Pedroza was scheduled to lead a tour south of Mexico City, the local guide started to worry that recent disturbances would
sabotage his trip. He followed news updates anxiously, hoping that the area would cool off and officials wouldn’t ban visitors.
You’re thinking drug cartels, vendettas and gunfire? Wrong. Pedroza was worried about spraying lava, not flying bullets.
“It is an active volcano,” said Pedroza of Popocatepetl, the volatile volcano up which he led a group of American mountaineers a few weeks ago. “I was
afraid that it was going to pour lava, but it stayed quiet.”
Mexico’s second-highest mountain is an apt metaphor for the country itself: Despite threatening rumblings, danger doesn’t always materialize.
Sometimes it’s even all in our heads. Yet misperceptions dog Mexico, which has been seriously shaken by the ongoing turf battles between drug cartels
and the frontal-assault strategy employed by President Felipe Calderon’s government.
“There’s a big gap between perception and reality,” says Margot Lee Shetterly, a Hampton, Va., native who relocated to Mexico with her husband six
years ago. “It’s a real shame for people to write off a whole country without looking at the map and at the statistics.”
Without a solid understanding of the geography (761,606 square miles) and the nature of the drug wars (internecine fighting), many foreigners assume
that all of Mexico is a war zone. But it isn’t.
“The episodes of violence are in very specific pockets,” says Rodolfo Lopez-Negrete, chief operating officer of the Mexico Tourism Board, “and are
unrelated to tourism.”
For proof, Lopez-Negrete rolls out the statistics, derived from a combination of government and non-government sources: Of 2,500 municipalities (what
we call counties), only 80, or fewer than 5 percent, have been affected by the drug war, which accounts for only 3 percent of all crime. Mexican
cities are also safer than some urban centers north of the border: Mexico City, for example, has 8.3 homicides a year per 100,000 people. That’s fewer
than Miami (14.1) and Chicago (16.1). On a global scale, Mexico is safer than many of its neighbors. In 2008, the United Nations Office on Drugs and
Crime reported Mexico’s homicide rate as 11.6 per 100,000, significantly lower than Honduras (60.9), Jamaica (59.5) or El Salvador (51.8).
But these figures don’t negate the fact that some places in Mexico are extraordinarily dangerous — so dangerous that they should be mummified in crime
tape.
“We are very much focused on Mexico,” says Hugo Rodriguez, chief for Western Hemisphere Affairs in the State Department’s Office of American Citizens
Services. “Providing U.S. citizens traveling to and living in Mexico with accurate information about the security situation there is a high priority
for us.” The agency’s travel warning on Mexico, last updated in April, specifies the dangers by state, delineating the possible threats to Americans,
4.7 million of whom visited from January through October.
Yet countless tourists balk at the border, unsure of where — or whether — to go.
Well, we’ll tell you. We spoke to security experts, tour operators, government officials and expats for advice on where you can comfortably kick off
your sandals and places you should avoid or explore with caution.
One quick PSA: No matter the destination, always be aware of your surroundings and follow the commandments of common sense: Register with the U.S
embassy, don’t walk in the dark alone, keep the bling at home, etc. Street crime, like multiple days of rain or a vengeful plate of beans, can really
ruin a good vacation.
Visit with abandon (and your family)
We know what you want: to plop down on the beach, sip a margarita and feel your stresses turn to goo beneath the hot Mexican sun.
You’re not alone. About 90 percent of tourists flock to the beach resorts on both coasts, says Lopez-Negrete. Nor will you be disappointed. The
majority of beach resorts, especially along the Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico, are sheltered oases.
“Quintana Roo and the Mayan Riviera are safe by Mexican standards and safe by Latin American standards,” says Pablo Weisz, regional security manager
for the Americas at International SOS and Control Risks, referring to the state and nickname of the major beach destinations.
Mark these in your vacation planners as safe: Cancun, Cozumel and Playa del Carmen on the Yucatan Peninsula, and on the Pacific side, Puerto Vallarta
and Cabo San Lucas. Some spots left out of the glossy brochures also make the list, such as the colonial city of Campeche, a World Heritage Site on
the gulf, and Merida, a city west of Cancun on the Yucatan. In addition, most day trips from the strands, including outings to the Mayan ruins, also
occupy the lowest rung on the risk ladder. These excursions include Tulum, Uxmal and Chichen Itza.
“I would take my family to these areas,” says Temo Tarrago, an Americas risk specialist with iJet, a global security risk assessment firm, offering
the ultimate stamp of approval.
The open lanes of travel don’t lead only south; they also wiggle inland, to colonial towns delightful with culture, crafts and heaping plates of
regional cuisine.
“Leon is large, safe and modern, but is also 400-plus years old. It’s the country’s leather capital; there is outstanding shoe shopping,” Shetterly
wrote by e-mail. “From Leon, you have access to Guanajuato (World Heritage Site), San Miguel [de Allende] (expat enclave, tons of art, culture,
concerts, great food, etc.) and even Queretaro (a gorgeous colonial city that is closer to Mexico City).”
The experts also place smiley-face stickers next to the state of Chiapas, home to ruins, biosphere reserves, textiles and the cultural city of San
Cristobal de las Casas.
Finally, Oaxaca dominated 2006 headlines because of protests gone awry, but the city known for its culinary traditions (pass the mole) has calmed
down. The teachers union still strikes periodically, but the protests are typically peaceful. If you’re considering going to Oaxaca soon, your timing
couldn’t be better: The strikes have already taken place this year. All’s likely to be quiet until the next school year.
Go with caution, or a burly friend
Pack your precautions for some areas that have improved substantially but still present slight risks.
Border town Tijuana has always worn a badge of dissolution, thanks to a spinning turnstile of partiers, drug suppliers and underworld denizens. But
the government’s recent crackdown on the cartels has helped clean up the place.
“Tijuana is perfectly fine,” says Lopez-Negrete. “It has gone through a major renovation and transformation.”
Security experts agree on the metamorphosis but place an asterisk beside the town’s name. “It’s not as much of a concern,” says Weisz, “but that
doesn’t mean that it should necessarily be considered safe.”
As safeguards, avoid low-end bars and drink or eat only items that have been prepared in front of you. Also, travel during the day and plan your modes
of transportation in advance.
Mexico City is a beast of a different nature. The capital city of 20 million people isn’t pocked with drug-related skirmishes, but it does suffer from
endemic street crime. Pickpocketing, shake-downs and kidnappings are common occurrences.
“It is a challenge by sheer size,” Tarrago says. “There are no drug cartels, but it does have organized crime.”
Tarrago reminds visitors to hire cabs only from authorized taxi stands and hotels, to keep valuables well hidden and to avoid unfamiliar places at
night. “Know where you’re going and be aware of your surroundings,” says the Mexican native, recommending the upscale areas of Polanco and Las Lomas.
Although Guadalajara is unraveling and has experienced drug cartel-related activity, the violence hasn’t spilled over to Lake Chapala, less than 30
miles southeast. Ringed by small communities, the country’s largest freshwater lake draws retired North American expats and migratory birds to its
shores.
“The security situation is kind of fluid,” says Tarrago, “but it’s not really affecting normal travelers.” That includes the American white pelican.
Don’t visit unless you’re a commando
Drug cartels don’t target tourists; the battle is cartel vs. cartel and cartel vs. government. Yet sometimes innocent folks find themselves in the
wrong place at the wrong time. The best way to avoid this unfortunate situation is to not go there.
So where aren’t you going? The towns along the border with the United States and along the Rio Grande, a line more than 1,200 miles long. One of the
worst is Ciudad Juarez, where the current murder toll of six or seven a day is considered an improvement, according to Walter McKay, a Canadian expat
who maps the narco-murders and posts the results on his Web site, Policereform.org.
While you’re crossing off names, draw a black mark through the entire state of Chihuahua, which accounts for 14 percent of the killings nationwide.
“It has the most violence in the whole country,” says Tarrago, who also warns against Copper Canyon, a natural wonder that is larger than the Grand
Canyon and is reached by high-altitude train. “It’s remote,” he said. “I wouldn’t advise anyone to go there at this time.”
On the west coast, red flags wave in the northern areas of Baja California. Despite increased security — “They are better than they were before,” says
Tarrago — travelers may come across military checkpoints and potentially sticky situations.
“You have to drive through dangerous areas to get to low-risk ones,” says Weisz. “You’re putting yourself at the mercy of those risks.” The solution:
Fly south to Cabo.
Southeast of Baja, Guadalajara hosted the Pan American Games in October without incident. Seems safe, right? But no. A month later, 26 bodies were
discovered on a road not far from the Millennium Arches, an iconic downtown structure.
“About 80 percent of Guadalajara is safe,” said McKay, “but how would you know which part of the city to avoid?” An easy solution: Avoid it all.
Some areas are an easy call, such as destinations along the northbound drug routes and near ports, such as Veracruz (city and state), Monterrey and
the resort town of Mazatlan.
But one destination now considered dangerous is tougher to fathom. In its heyday, Acapulco was the glittery playground of jetsetters and such silver
screen royalty as Elizabeth Taylor and Brigitte Bardot. It later morphed into a spring break haunt. Now, its beaches are empty, its resorts devoid of
guests — a casualty of heavy cartel violence. (To make matters worse, a 6.5-magnitude earthquake struck on Dec. 10.)
“Acapulco used to be a beautiful place to go to,” says McKay, “but you don’t go there anymore.”
The State Department advises Americans to “exercise extreme caution when visiting downtown Acapulco,” but thoughtfully provides an alternative:
Diamante, a few miles south of downtown. That tourist area’s major selling point: “It has not been affected by the increasing violence” in Acapulco —
a paradise lost, at least for now. "
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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"Drug cartels don’t target tourists; the battle is cartel vs. cartel and cartel vs. government. Yet sometimes innocent folks find themselves in the
wrong place at the wrong time. The best way to avoid this unfortunate situation is to not go there."
not much of a travel endorsement. Tourism dollars (Mainland) are down 20% this year from last. Mazatlan alone is down to 20 cruise ships a year from
300 two years ago. Acapulco is losing a lot too now. I think you can safely cross Veracruz off the destination list now too.
So far anglers, tourists and celebrities are still enjoying Baja (Clooney in Cabo for Christmas) and that's good news. Image is everything.
[Edited on 12-22-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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The article mentioned some destinations specifically as being incident free: Queretero and Lake Chapala. There have been murders reported in these
locations recently. In Lake Chapala, there was a murder of a gringo in his own driveway in Ajijic. The gringo community is holding meetings regarding
security as reported here in the Bajanomad a few days ago.
I am not trying to be an alarmist here. I would still travel to those places. But I just wanted to set the record straight.
I know those places well as I used to live in San Miguel de Allende. It is sad to read of violence in places we know and love, however, when immersed
in any city or town in Mexico you find comfort in that you are among thousands of people who are busily going about their lives without incident.
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Anyone who is still buying-in to that Mexican Tourist Bureau story line that Americans and Canadians are not specific targets of criminals in Mexico
needs to read this page.
That page is not about all of Mexico. It is about the maybe 15,000 ex-pats how live in the Lake Chapala area.
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lake chapala
wow,that's a eye opener,,god I love my little baja..K&T
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Lake Chapala is NOT Baja's Laguna Chapala...
In fact, only this was in this article about Baja... and it is so wrong (Baja isn't just Tijuana and Cabo, in fact, those two places are the least
attractive parts of the entire peninsula... anything in between is better or totally different):
On the west coast, red flags wave in the northern areas of Baja California. Despite increased security — “They are better than they were before,” says
Tarrago — travelers may come across military checkpoints and potentially sticky situations.
“You have to drive through dangerous areas to get to low-risk ones,” says Weisz. “You’re putting yourself at the mercy of those risks.” The solution:
Fly south to Cabo.
WOW
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Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
"Drug cartels don’t target tourists; the battle is cartel vs. cartel and cartel vs. government. Yet sometimes innocent folks find themselves in the
wrong place at the wrong time. The best way to avoid this unfortunate situation is to not go there."
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I'll go with the above point, until proven otherwise, the Chapala
link, although I didn't read through it, lists incidents that have
been occuring for decades. I would guess robberies
ahve been a part of living in Mex since the beginning
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Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
"Drug cartels don’t target tourists; the battle is cartel vs. cartel and cartel vs. government. Yet sometimes innocent folks find themselves in the
wrong place at the wrong time. The best way to avoid this unfortunate situation is to not go there."[Edited on 12-22-2011 by Woooosh]
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I'll go with the above point, until proven otherwise, the Chapala link, although I didn't read through it, lists incidents that have
been occuring for decades. I would guess robberies
ahve been a part of living in Mex since the beginning |
The culture of corruption and the acceptance of it came to Mexico with the Spanish. It has grown and morphed into what we deal with today. Yup- it
has always been here.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Cultural Heritage
A (European-native) Friend who has worked and traveled the world extensively, said to me (a number of times) that those areas colonized by the English
were the best with the Spanish and French the worst.
Quien Sabe ?
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Just because european countries of the time were rife with corruption does not mean that precolombian america was without it. The fact that slavery
and human sacrifice were allowed in precolombian Mexico speaks to how the common citizens were viewed by rulers.
Unfortunately there isn't an extensive written history for the Aztecs etc as there is to the degree it exists for europe - so myth, legend and
nostalgia tend to make precolombian america seem like some sort of paradise (to some).
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Now, That's not P.C.
We KNOW that ALL was Paradise Pre-Colombian.
Don't we ?
Back when "Apocalypto" came out to a torrent of non-acclaim by the Liberal critics, the best I saw in the L.A. Times was the Whine that "just because
it MIGHT be historically accurate, it wasn't a FAIR description of Mayan Culture".
Fair to them is ALWAYS Blame it ALL (including T.B. ?) on those guys from Spain.
Despite Slavery, Genocide and Human Sacrifice they were REALLY a VERY cultured people who made good calendars.
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Suspects target U.S. citizens in carjackings
Well, there goes another myth about Mexico:
The U.S. Consulate in Matamoros has issued a warning about a rash of carjackings that have occurred this month in the neighborhoods north of the city.
The suspects seem to be targeting U.S. citizens, the warning states.
Two armed men have been approaching people with U.S. license plates and driving away with the vehicles, the consulate reported.
At least five U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents have reported a carjacking in Matamoros earlier this month, according to the warning.
The men are described as in their early 20s, each approximately 150 pounds and driving either a green Chevrolet Cavalier, a green Chevrolet Tahoe or a
black Ford Escort.
The Herald reported earlier this week that a 23-year-old woman told Brownsville police she was carjacked in Matamoros. Two armed men asked her if she
was American, ordered her out of the vehicle and then stole the car and her purse, a police report said.
The consulate advised people to travel in pairs whenever possible, keep emergency medical supplies in the car and to scan the mirrors in the car when
driving.
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/driving-134971-car-rep...
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