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David, Ken and I have come out to hwy 5 two ways after his Pole Line Rd runs. One is to go north to Saldana as shown on the map and out ot KM87. The
other is to go south/east to Arroyo Grande back to the wells and northeast and out to KM 91. The turn off on hwy 5 south of La Ventana that leads to
the water pipe road is at KM 107+/-. The Google map below has the Baja 500 course with the access roads to Hwy 5.
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David K
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The K107 to water well then south in Arroyo Grande to the Pole Line Road, where the Score Road leaves Arroyo Grande is what we drove.
I guess Ken left the Pole Line Road for Ejido Saldaña before it dropped down to Arroyo Grande? Anyway, our quest was to go into Arroyo Grande Canyon
south of the Pole Line Road crossing, but a big steel cable was stretched across the arroyo just south of where the Pole Line/ Score road leaves the
wash to head for Borrego Wash.
Thanks.
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Here is the two routes from the PLR. One to Saldana and the other to Arroyo Grande.
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Right... the bottom right of your map (PLR Access) we drove past and then out of the wash on the red line. We were looking for the old road back to La
Ventana access as shown on the Gulick map. We found it, but it disappeared soon. We were wanting to avoid the slow whooped up race course in Arroyo
Grande back to the well.
Have you driven south of there into the Arroyo Grande Canyon?
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This shows the dam, rocks and Rancho Grande locations. I have been to the rocks. Google Earth does not show another way down Arroyo Grande that I
could see to get around the cable.
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David K
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It's sure fun exploring back in there. Pretty wild to think our boys built the Pole Line Road in 1942 through that land. Thanks Tom!
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Bump for Ateo
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Thanks DK. That picture looks pretty darn sandy. I guess if I air down with some speed and draw a good line I may make it. Hmmmmm.
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Or stay close to the graded road where it ends by the giant diesel well (the end or start of the water pipeline from the gold mine)?
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Bump for wolfpack!
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PLR
After my first PLR trip Jan 28/2014, Henry, a San Felipe GPS expert, drove the road using an archived GPS track. His verbal description is drive from
La Ventana to the wells, proceeded west to the Jaquegel drainage and drive up the drainage until he intercepted the route we all use. That track is
documented and both Rich and I have it. I cannot access it for now. Anyway that track is not recommended due to difficulty compared to the other more
commonly used tracks. That track is on my to do list.
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David K
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Arroyo Grande and Jaquegel are parallel washes after they leave the hills and both head north towards Laguna Salada.
The Pole Line road climbs out of Jaquegel (where we camped on the 2015 trip and fixed the road there) goes north to the runway and construction camp
where the Saldaña road turned left and the road to Arroyo Grande turned right. The new wells are in Arroyo Grande but the arroyo is much wider than
the Howard Gulick map shows... that is why my adding the map and Baja 1000 route on the Gulick maps appears west of Arroyo Grande itself.
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So much to do in Baja... This was just a 3-day trip but it inspired so much more discussion.
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Looked like a fun trip. I wish they still had those gas prices.
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