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Woooosh
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With the continued problems with mainland cruise port cities like Mazatlan, Acapulco and yesterday in Puerto Vallarta (where 20 cruise passengers were
robbed during a shore excursion) - perhaps better days are ahead for the Baja Ports of Call? Is there any talk of cruise lines expanding Baja cruises
or is the profit point too low for more than what they run to Baja now? Everyone loved to hate them years ago, but now we would loved to see them
back.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Alan
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There was talk last year about an increase of the smaller cruise ships starting to make stops in La Paz but I haven't seen any since the Blues Cruise
stopped last Oct and put on an awesome afternoon concert.
In Memory of E-57
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Bajahowodd
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That PV incident really does not bode well for increasing Mexico tourism.
As noted by Blanca, Cancun has been doing OK. As has Cabo. A note for Blanca- total tourism in Cancun is far below historic peaks, as it is in Cabo.
But, they appear to be the remaining destinations that have considerable business. Mostly due to the mega resorts, the time shares and the
all-inclusives.
As for the cruises, just recently the Disney folks announced they were ending their Mexican cruise from LA later this year.
Given the immense costs to take a cruise, these providers are super sensitive to local conditions.
Personally, I wouldn't have a second thought about visiting PV, but it's amazing what a bit of bad press can do.
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mcfez
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Cozumel
We spend part of every year in Cozumel and have for nearly 20 years. You couldn't be in a safer place. The local people are cool...... and kind and
honest. There has been no drug violence on the island. That mostly happens on the border towns on the west coast and is always drug related. The one
time drug dealers tried to set up shop on Cozumel a few years ago, the locals "gift wrapped" them in their car and put them on the ferry back to the
mainland with the full cooperation of the local authorities. You would be safe walking around anywhere on the island at any hour of the day or night.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Burbs
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Tourism figures should be compared to five years ago, not one year. Five years past we would have close to 50 days scheduled with the caravans. They
consisted of 18-23 rigs. They would stay 1-2-3 nights. Have at least one group dinner here per stay. The companies Tracks, Fantasy and Tracks to
Adventure would be fighting over the days. Last year there were five days, but only 6-10 rigs per group and no dinners to serve. Nearly every day
people would be asking for rentals. Kayaks rented nearly every day. I thought it would never end. It has ended, this year not one day. Regular
business is 25% compared to four years ago. Also, many more are ordering a meal and splitting it. This did not happen so much before. The beach
vendors are crying the blues too! One can tell when they have had a good day because the vendors would meet here and gamble playing pool and drink
cold beers and soda's. Not anymore. Beach campers in the Mulege area seem to have arrived later and are leaving earlier
We live right on the Hwy #1 and there is little traffic. Mostly big trucks hauling goods to La Paz and Cabo. "Love them J-Brakes"! Easter will bring
some spending, but those holidays are more of a camping holiday with women cooking for their families and the guys drinking their store bought drinks.
Other patrons are not tourists, but people who live here in the Baja and they don't spend as much. One of our rentals has a kitchen and this is a big
attraction for the rental when it rents because more are wanting to cook their own. There just isn't enough disposable income for people to spend
like they were.
We have not raised prices in almost 5 years, but this makes little difference. I have other factors to consider for loss of business, but the tourism
really sucks now when it could be good.
I fear that I will end up like one of those tienda's way out there. You know the kind where the guy is sleeping and the chickens are all about the
store. It is happening here! Just need to get some chickens!
On the bright side it can be a good time to get good value for your dollar if you are visiting. Hotel and rental prices are about 50-60% of what they
were and food prices are a value also. Still, Mexico needs customers. Manana is another day.
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vgabndo
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Burbs...just speaking for myself. Nothing could keep me from driving to Baja and spending all my extra money, I did it for years. I know how to get
past the frontera and I'll trust my judgement to get me to safer points south. The cartels don't have much of anything to do with my thinking.
Unfortunately, my companeros have created an economic "imbalance" of some sort, and my fixed income and constantly growing $1,000 per month mordida to
the Insurance Cartels, coupled with insanity like the little metal PART in my wife's knee surgery costing $45,000.00 have left us with little
opportunity to buy $4.00 diesel, OR do the required maintenance on the truck. I'm sorry you're going broke.........too.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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BajaBlanca
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Diana - we seem to be growing year after year ... and the fishing ain't anything to write home about !! people come to birdwatch in the lagoon,
people come to hang out with Joaquin and Juanchys and esp eat lobster at the Cactus Restaurant. people come to fish for the fun of fishing (not
catching !!). people come to get in some R & R. while watching the surf and having coctails on the front porch. a lot of folks come from Bola and
Mulege and Loreto and Chivato for a change of pace.
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captkw
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tour folk's
I can tell you 19 out of 20 people I meet (gringo's),, are from vancouver or B.C. canada and I meet a lot of folk's each day,,being a have a lil tasha
(dog) strutting her shades and I alway's ask where folk's are from and this is the year of the CUNUK,,great folk's !! K&T
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baja1943
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
We spend part of every year in Cozumel and have for nearly 20 years. You couldn't be in a safer place. The local people are cool...... and kind and
honest. There has been no drug violence on the island. That mostly happens on the border towns on the west coast and is always drug related. The one
time drug dealers tried to set up shop on Cozumel a few years ago, the locals "gift wrapped" them in their car and put them on the ferry back to the
mainland with the full cooperation of the local authorities. You would be safe walking around anywhere on the island at any hour of the day or night.
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How much time do you spend there every year?
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