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Cypress
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willardguy, Whiners! They'll complain and whine.
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Cisco
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Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
My family and I have been needlessly treated unprofessionally by more than one of these knuckleheads.
I have been amazed that their supervisors don't drop a serious hammer on them.
To get a result from a complaint I filed I actually had to go to their PIO to get any traction and I told him I was going to circulate a specific
agents name through all media and public safety websites as possible.
I, shortly thereafter, got a call from the district supervisor and he and I had a number of productive conversations detailing agent contact and
follow up.
That was a number of years ago, though, and things seem as if they are worse now.
I am grateful the ACLU is out there fighting for us. |
Your post really surprised me, thanks for taking time to share that and one of the responses that can get to these people. Get on their butts by
golly, particularly yourself who is in a helping/safety job.
Yes, things are worse now and have been since an attitude of "we can do anything we want now" has been instituted by the Patriot Act.
The "OLD" days are gone, we have a different set of priorities as a nation today.
Regarding the "OLD" days. When I was falling out of the Wagon Wheel in Santee (where there used to be a corner going to Lakeside) someone burned down
the "head shop" in that little row of stores (still there???) just east of the lake.
My goodness, how many years ago??? But they were not going to have a head shop in their town.
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motoged
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Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
I guess being an Gringo Caucasian has some
benefits |
Ya know....the "privilege " of being a white male is slowly deteriorating.
Get used to it.....the majority of folks on this planet aren't white males.
The new world order
Don't believe everything you think....
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Cisco
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Quote: | Originally posted by ateo
If they do this stuff to people entering legally, imagine what they do to those entering illegally. |
US urged to complete probe of 2010 border death.
http://www.cbs8.com/story/18254225/us-urged-to-complete-prob...
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CortezBlue
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The last time I came through I was pulled from my car and a female office sexually abused me.
When I go back through over Memorial Day, I hope I can find her lane again.
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thebajarunner
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Dang, I hate it when that happens
Which crossing, by the way??
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Cisco
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Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
The last time I came through I was pulled from my car and a female office sexually abused me.
When I go back through over Memorial Day, I hope I can find her lane again.
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Are you a Guy???
If so that's unusual for the BorderGirlFriend...
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Ateo
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Yep. I have an old friend who became border patrol in 2007. He brags about the crazy stuff agents do to people coming across the southern border.
He called them "donkers". Apparently the term comes from the sound a flashlight makes when it hits the head of an illegal - "donk". Pretty sick,
especially cuz he's married to a Mexican.
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mes1952
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I find that the younger agents are much nicer than the older ones whom tend to be about 40% of them rednecks. In general, I get much better treatment
from the Mexicans.
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BajaBlanca
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woody - sorry to hear about your ordeal.
and sorry that people are getting abused .... I can't even imagine how my hubby would react in bad situation like that .... it would not be pretty
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LancairDriver
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The DHS recently let a contract to ATK on March 5th for 450 MILLION rounds of 40 Cal. hollow point ammunition. They have also ordered a large quantity
of bullet proof portable booths. Check points? Papers please? Obviously things are changing rapidly and who knows what is coming. This of course does
not include military or local and state police departments who buy their own ammo.
I know, I know, they have to protect our borders and keep us all safe and if you have nothing to hide why worry. Still, 450 Million rounds flying
around is a lot of lead.
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Ateo
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I'm sure there are many others that didn't say anything about their mistreatment. I understand these guys have a tough job standing in that booth all
day but no one deserves to be treated like an animal.
I think the border patrol should give respect to get respect.
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soulpatch
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There is a bigger issue at play where the majority of the workers are decent people.
The issue arises when there are a few boneheads that really paint the rest of them in a poor fashion.
For a decent agent to do the right thing and finger a bad agent that decent agent paints him/herself forever in the agency as being a b-tch..... there
is no reward and massive amounts of alienation... it is a bad system and is not unique in any way.
I have, personally, tried to bring to my "superiors" guys who come in drunk or abuse coke, whatever, and have paid a price for it... I could give a
chit. However, those occurrences did hinder my upward mobility.
Old school guys can be worse but these lily-white people they have to be when they finally pass background now is so weird that, in my and my older
co-workers opinion, they are not normal and they have quite the strange behavioral expectations and judgement for those they interact with
professionally.
They can be off the hook jack-asses and completely out of touch with who comprises a serious threat and who is just a normal human that could use a
touch of slack...
We are getting closer and closer to the jack-booters that we used to express disdain for and went to war against....
I guess a lot of it is ignorance.
Also, to address those that say they are doing nothing wrong so they have nothing to fear...
You can now be held indefinitely with no cause..... indefinitely... thanks to the Patriot Act that Obama has not dis-avowed.... no POTUS gives up
power...
So, just pee of the wrong agent and you can get seriously stuck in the system.
Oops, grammar and spelling! call the police!
[Edited on 5-11-2012 by soulpatch]
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mojo_norte
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Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
they suck! my experience last week was the worst in a long time. they sent 7 agents to surround my wife and i asking us rapid fire questions
seperately. one guy asked me if my wife's story would match mine and i told him i didn't know because he hadn't asked her anything yet (she was busy
with another guy at the time)....
they are very aggressive and it must be a biatch to have to live with one of them when they get home all high strung on power.....
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They Suck! past 10 years I get sent to secondary and hassled every time. Otay's seems to be the worst- Tecate's a bit more mellow- but it's a major
deterrent to making the trip.
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CortezBlue
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Quote: | Originally posted by Cisco
Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
The last time I came through I was pulled from my car and a female office sexually abused me.
When I go back through over Memorial Day, I hope I can find her lane again.
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Are you a Guy???
Let me
check.................................................................................................................................................
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..............................................I think so???
It's either a really big clitoris or a very small penis??
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woody with a view
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that looks exactly like a penis, only smaller!
and no, i'm not a gynecologist, but i'll have a look!!!!
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BajaNomad
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And with that, I'd say this thread has run its course.
Yes, taking privilege here before closing this thread - with this thought/reminder:
"The exception is the perception"
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
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