I have not had the time to answer but I have been DNAing a few Arces and have come up w some great stuff. I have over 4000 names in my database and
that is my Baja California bunch-most pre 1920 and post 1600. Its the old "if you throw a rock into the air in the central desert, it will come down
on the head of an Arce". The Arce Y is VERY VERY interesting!!! Some fascinating stuff will come out of this project.
Harry will probably send you to me.
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Most of the Guia Familiar goes by records of death/birth/baptism and marriage. They are classified by
the town or municipality in which the individual filed.
What town was your grandfather born in. Examples are
Santa Rosalia, Ensenada, Mulege San Jose, Comandu,
etc. It will make looking to see if he is listed a lot easier
than going through the whole index of Arces.
If you hang out on the Camino Real, the mission road through California that connects the missions and visitas and presidios back to Spain, then you
will cross paths with Baja Bucko... We enjoy her singing at the campfire at Mision Santa Maria de los Angeles, in May 2010:
I am going to have to see if I can post a scan of the Arce
entries. I could not find the names that you gave me,
but there are lots of entries,some of which may ring a bell to you and send you down the right path. There were some names whose spelling appeared
using
"Y" instead of "I" that you may have to make a determination on. A few Espinozas in the clan too.
In Pablo L. Martínez's Historia de Baja California, the first mention of an Arce occurs with Padre Salvatierra's founding of the mission at Loreto.
Juan de Arce, described as a Spanish sailor, "English by birth but raised in New Spain", arrived with five other men in a small boat on 6 February
1698, delivering the provisions Salvatierra had been waiting for since November of the previous year.
The same book mentions Anastacio Arce, primer regidor (councilman) of Loreto, 1822; Lt Bernardo Arce, taken prisoner by Lt Col. Henry Burton during a
skirmish in San Antonio on 15 March 1848; and José Ignacio Arce, who appears to have been in La Paz in 1880 opposing the insurrection of Gen. Manuel
Márquez de León.
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Originally posted by DENNIS
Now I have to go find my edition. I wonder why it isn't in reprint?
UABC produced an annotated edition with apparatus criticus in 2003 (3rd ed.) and in 2005 (4th ed.) as Volume 19 in the Baja California: Nuestra
Historia collection of the Instituto de Investigaciones Históricas UABC. I'm pretty sure it's still in print because I see it for sale in the UABC
stall of most cultural expos. It's also still in UABC's catalogue, 2012, although there it's shown as the third edition.
Originally posted by xolotl_tj
UABC produced an annotated edition with apparatus criticus in 2003 (3rd ed.) and in 2005 (4th ed.) as Volume 19 in the Baja California: Nuestra
Historia collection of the Instituto de Investigaciones Históricas UABC. I'm pretty sure it's still in print because I see it for sale in the UABC
stall of most cultural expos. It's also still in UABC's catalogue, 2012, although there it's shown as the third edition.
I bought an English edition from a book store in San Juan Capistrano around 1975. [yeah...I know. My Spanish is good enough for the streets, but a
waste of time on a scholarly text book]
(I was unaware of an English edition of Martínez.)
Here are a few more Arces, taken from the very strange Baja California: ensayo enciclopédico by Ricardo Romero Aceves (1985).
José Arce. Mayor of La Paz, 1830, formerly of Loreto. Loreto was the territorial capital at the time but a tempest forced everyone to relocate to La
Paz.
Pedro Arce. "Teacher and altruistic, philanthropic father" (probably means priest here) who founded the Catholic college of Nuestra Señora in La Paz
on 30 May 1906.
Ricardo Arce Pérez. Head of the Tijuana customs-house from 1970 to 1980.
If you get really serious about tracking the old Arces down, find a copy of Historia de la colonización de la Baja California y decreto del 10 de
marzo de 1857 by Ulises Urbano Lassépas. This is now Volume 8 of the aforementioned IIH collection. It is a detailed study of the land-grants
throughout the peninsula up until the middle of the nineteenth century. There are eighteen entries for Arce in its index.
Originally posted by xolotl_tj
In Pablo L. Martínez's Historia de Baja California, the first mention of an Arce occurs with Padre Salvatierra's founding of the mission at Loreto.
Juan de Arce, described as a Spanish sailor, "English by birth but raised in New Spain", arrived with five other men in a small boat on 6 February
1698, delivering the provisions Salvatierra had been waiting for since November of the previous year.
on page 140
Quote:
Originally posted by xolotl_tj
The same book mentions Anastacio Arce, primer regidor (councilman) of Loreto, 1822; Lt Bernardo Arce, taken prisoner by Lt Col. Henry Burton during a
skirmish in San Antonio on 15 March 1848; and José Ignacio Arce, who appears to have been in La Paz in 1880 opposing the insurrection of Gen. Manuel
Márquez de León.
Sadly, there is no real index in Martinez' book to look up names... just a contents table in the back labeled as the index. I wasn't able to find the
other mentions of Arce, but I may have missed it, I am pretty tired!
Originally posted by David K
Sadly, there is no real index in Martinez' book to look up names... just a contents table in the back labeled as the index. I wasn't able to find the
other mentions of Arce
Whadaya know, Ethel Duffy Turner translated the book into English shortly after it was first published.
In the Latin tradition of book design, the table of contents is found in the back as the main index. Other indices, for names or places, might also be
found there, but are not obligatory. The UABC edition has both a main index and a name index, which made things easy for me.
Since Martinez worked in chronological order, you might find the missing references just by following the years as given. The UABC edition shuffled
some of his chapters around, so you probably won't get a linear correlation to its pagination, but my citations are found on pages 197, 397, 448, and
489 in case you want to try.
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