cabonotcho
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hi vry nice home-could you let me know if it is on leased or your own land thank you -have a great evening
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Mulegena
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Nice... very nice.
You´ve done a beautiful refurbishment of this home.
Very tastful , elegant and comfortable!
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mtnpop
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabonotcho
hi vry nice home-could you let me know if it is on leased or your own land thank you -have a great evening |
Just a quick note from the conversation... there are 2 communities along the river "LaFortuna and the Orchard" that currently have no leased/rented
lots, they are all titled "fideicomiso" properties... as well as some scattered places further down toward the lighthouse...
This advertised property is in the Oasis, a great community, where all the properties are currently rented with a great landlord...."you own the house
but rent the lot" also, the advertised property is neither riverside or even riverview.... just FYI...... didn't think your question was fully
answered..
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Kgryfon
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How much is the rent?
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mtnpop
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| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtnpop
| Quote: | Originally posted by cabonotcho
hi vry nice home-could you let me know if it is on leased or your own land thank you -have a great evening |
Just a quick note from the conversation... there are 2 communities along the river "LaFortuna and the Orchard" that currently have no leased/rented
lots, they are all titled "fideicomiso" properties... as well as some scattered places further down toward the lighthouse...
This advertised property is in the Oasis, a great community, where all the properties are currently rented with a great landlord...."you own the house
but rent the lot" also, the advertised property is neither riverside or even riverview.... just FYI...... didn't think your question was fully
answered.. |
Thanks for the clarification. Also, it is all relative. You pay a lot more for houses on titled land that is fixed up then on leased land. Also,
the Orchard is the first development on the river and it takes a pretty good hit from the hurricanes. The whole first row of houses are gone besides
one and the 2nd row has lost a substantial amount of houses. |
Interesting, this post is for selling your casa in the Oasis on a leased lot.. Now you mention the "Orchard" with titled property kind of
disparagingly (sp) and word is around that you have been negotiating with several owners in the Orchard over the past few months trying to purchas a
casa in that park... Might be more to the story than told...
Also poo-pooing the Orchard without the full knowledge of what and why the devestation might show some ignorance in the situation... IMO
Common sense is a flower that doesn\'t grow in everyone\'s garden.....
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toneart
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Divermulege-
That is a beautiful job you have done there in The Oasis. The price is reasonable! Leon is a completely honest and trustworthy park/land owner and
$221 is not a bad rent.
The Orchard, too, is a wonderful community and as Mt.Pop says, all properties are titled with Fideicomisos. It didn't use to be when Roberto owned
many of the lots, but that has changed. It has changed largely because of the very tight knit, organized and securely legal H.O. Assn. They have an
owners' board of directors, a voting membership and have amassed surplus funds that quickly restore the community infrastructure. The neighborhood
looks beautiful!
As many of you know, I was an owner there for several years. The cleanup and stress involved became tiresome and expensive, to say the least. I sold
it with full disclosure to a good family who brings new (make that younger) energy to the casita and the community. I am in my upper 70s and also need
to be closer to a major medical facility. I do miss the Mulege life, my wonderful friends there and the fishing.
Roberto was a conceptual genius with his designs, but did not have the best reputation if you were beholden to him. Having said that, he was always
straight with me. He is no longer a landlord and is not physically present there any more. He does still own the west side of the park where there are
only ruined RV pads,with the exception of Stu's pad and palapa. Roberto has never put forth the effort or money to restore the west end.
Regarding the flood risk, it is always present with both parks. The houses in The Orchard that were destroyed were the ones most vulnerable. Those
along the river were victims of the torrential force of the flow. Most were ripped from their foundations.What was left was rubble; nothing
salvageable.
The houses on the second row that were destroyed were victims of the earth directly underneath them. Those casitas were on very unstable ground and
the water swirled around them and undermined them. They collapsed into giant sinkholes.
Those left standing have endured many of these floods now. Each flood-causing hurricane was the worst in history, one after the other. I don't think
that is going to change for the future, although there will be periods of years where there are none. But, those left standing are clearly on firmer
ground than those that were lost.
Clean up, disinfecting and some minor repair (perhaps some windows and paint) after a flood is all that is needed. The help that is necessary is
provided by local families who have long-standing relationships with the casita owners. The family that helped me had my keys and my complete trust.
They went right in immediately after the water receded and started the clean up. They knew I was good for generous reimbursement when I returned.
Some chided us for "rebuilding". That is NOT what we did. We merely did as described above. I know of only one person whose house was destroyed who
rebuilt, and that didn't turn out very well.
Back to Divermulege... again, beautiful job! I wish you the best of luck in selling your project. It looks like a win/win for all involved.
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divemulege
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Divermulege-
That is a beautiful job you have done there in The Oasis. The price is reasonable! Leon is a completely honest and trustworthy park/land owner and
$221 is not a bad rent.
The Orchard, too, is a wonderful community and as Mt.Pop says, all properties are titled with Fideicomisos. It didn't use to be when Roberto owned
many of the lots, but that has changed. It has changed largely because of the very tight knit, organized and securely legal H.O. Assn. They have an
owners' board of directors, a voting membership and have amassed surplus funds that quickly restore the community infrastructure. The neighborhood
looks beautiful!
As many of you know, I was an owner there for several years. The cleanup and stress involved became tiresome and expensive, to say the least. I sold
it with full disclosure to a good family who brings new (make that younger) energy to the casita and the community. I am in my upper 70s and also need
to be closer to a major medical facility. I do miss the Mulege life, my wonderful friends there and the fishing.
Roberto was a conceptual genius with his designs, but did not have the best reputation if you were beholden to him. Having said that, he was always
straight with me. He is no longer a landlord and is not physically present there any more. He does still own the west side of the park where there are
only ruined RV pads,with the exception of Stu's pad and palapa. Roberto has never put forth the effort or money to restore the west end.
Regarding the flood risk, it is always present with both parks. The houses in The Orchard that were destroyed were the ones most vulnerable. Those
along the river were victims of the torrential force of the flow. Most were ripped from their foundations.What was left was rubble; nothing
salvageable.
The houses on the second row that were destroyed were victims of the earth directly underneath them. Those casitas were on very unstable ground and
the water swirled around them and undermined them. They collapsed into giant sinkholes.
Those left standing have endured many of these floods now. Each flood-causing hurricane was the worst in history, one after the other. I don't think
that is going to change for the future, although there will be periods of years where there are none. But, those left standing are clearly on firmer
ground than those that were lost.
Clean up, disinfecting and some minor repair (perhaps some windows and paint) after a flood is all that is needed. The help that is necessary is
provided by local families who have long-standing relationships with the casita owners. The family that helped me had my keys and my complete trust.
They went right in immediately after the water receded and started the clean up. They knew I was good for generous reimbursement when I returned.
Some chided us for "rebuilding". That is NOT what we did. We merely did as described above. I know of only one person whose house was destroyed who
rebuilt, and that didn't turn out very well.
Back to Divermulege... again, beautiful job! I wish you the best of luck in selling your project. It looks like a win/win for all involved.
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Agree with you 100% Toneart!!!
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divemulege
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Bump
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divemulege
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Here is a video:
http://youtu.be/zTkqDb1RUAA
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