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monoloco
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Just use a scuba tank. 3000 psi will fill a lot of tires.
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larryC
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Woody
I have used a scuba tank for years to fill tires with no issues and sometimes I use a scuba regulator and I also have adapted a welding reg to the
scuba tank, lots of used tanks available, and cheap to fill. I also have here in Bahia a couple of old 2000 psi survivair tanks left over from my sdfd
days that you could have if you want one.
Larry
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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55steve
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No Dave - it takes a separate unit.
On topic - We have used several tanks over the years - both scuba & ones from the welding supply - tried both CO2 & nitrogen. Bottom line is
that it all works.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by 55steve
Absolutely not true - when I had my CJ-7 Jeep I installed an York A/C compressor in the factory location and was capable of 400 PSI - I regulated it
to 140 and with the use of a storage tank I had reliable air good enough to run high volume air tools.
| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
The main reason I have a nitrogen tank is to get up to 200psi.Can't get there with a compressor.
David,didn't even notice that.Co2 is what plants give off and bubbles in soda.
[Edited on 3-20-2014 by whistler] |
[Edited on 3-20-2014 by 55steve] |
Steve, can a compressor that is working an AC also be able to fill tires, or is it only good for one or the other? If it is possible, do you have any
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PaulW
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Filling tires
CO2 tank depending on size will fill tires. They come in 5, 10 & 20 pound size, The size is pounds because they are filled by weight on a scale.
Beverage distributors and weld supply places is where you go for refills. Best size by far is the 20# because just about any weld place carry filled
ones in stock and just exchange them for around $25. As an aside I find 4 tires is the limit for 12 to 30psi on a 35" tire due to icing of the
regulator and very low flow rate for the 4th tire.
Power tank sells very high price a nice kit and I have one, but tanks have a retest date on them and then your pretty tank will take a few days to get
tested and refilled. No exchange possible. What a pain. That rig lives in Baja and Mexicali, Yuma, or ElCentro is the place for refills.
A 12v compressor is a very good solution. Kilby sells a continuous duty one for a high price. Most guys can find a place under the hood to put the
compressor. Pulls 25 amps. A tank is a added feature and it is harder to find a place to put it. They work great and I have one of those setups as
well.
Harbor Freight sells 2 different units and they both will work fine, but slow is traded off for low cost. Yes, I have a rig with the cheaper version
and it works OK. I just carry the thing in its box and pulle it out, open the hood and clamp the thing to the batt and proceed.
Then there is the little ones sold that say they will go to 150psi, but they have such low flow it will take many hours to fill one tire.
I have one of those in my truck for emergencies. Of course its faster to use the spare tire. After the spare is used then plugging and slow fill is
the answer.
Speed for filling is an issue and the CO2 is fastest of the above. The jeep crowd use on board air compressors connected to the motor, These units are
air conditioner compressors and fill tires hat the fastest way possible and sure enough a little compressor oil ends up in the tire. These things are
about twice as fast as a CO2 setup with a fixed press high flow regulator.
Using compressed air or N2 is a bad idea because its to big of a deal to get the tank filled. With N2, He, or air you have to cool the tank during
charging to get a full fill and that usually takes overnight.
BTW, everybody should carry a plug kit when in the boondocks. I plug my buddies tires probably every 3rd or 4th trip. Plug then air up.
Paul
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BooJumMan
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The CO2 tanks are awesome for airing up, speed wise obviously, but as mentioned above the regulators do ice up a bit. I still haven't bought a CO2
tank, even though I've wanted one for years. The tanks do weigh quite a bit and take up a good amount of space....
Im surprised not anyone has mentioned the MV-50 compressors you buy from Pep Boys. They are $50 and have a higher flow rate than the expensive units.
I can fill my 35" tires from 20 to 40 psi in less then 5 mins each. I've had mine for about 6 years now, and its completely banged up, but still works
like new.
Here's a link, I know I am offtopic here, just adding to discussion:
http://www.amazon.com/Industries-MV50-SuperFlow-High-Volume-...
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BooJumMan
The CO2 tanks are awesome for airing up, speed wise obviously, but as mentioned above the regulators do ice up a bit. I still haven't bought a CO2
tank, even though I've wanted one for years. The tanks do weigh quite a bit and take up a good amount of space....
Im surprised not anyone has mentioned the MV-50 compressors you buy from Pep Boys. They are $50 and have a higher flow rate than the expensive units.
I can fill my 35" tires from 20 to 40 psi in less then 5 mins each. I've had mine for about 6 years now, and its completely banged up, but still works
like new.
Here's a link, I know I am offtopic here, just adding to discussion:
http://www.amazon.com/Industries-MV50-SuperFlow-High-Volume-... |
That's what many of us have (Tsunami/ Q Industries) that Woody want's to ditch... He uses his so much, it just wears out... See a thread where he had
to rebuild it a while back. I have the same one (given to me) plus a Harbor Freight one (bought years ago). Both work, but the Harbor Freight one fuse
holder melts fuses... but is a tiny bit faster than the Tsunami 50... 6 psi per minute vs. 5. The cigarette lighter air pump from Coleman I used to
have filled tires at only 2 psi per minute.
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woody with a view
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see the story here: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=59459#pid7165...
i replaced that unit and the new one broke after 3-4 tires. the flapper that i fixed on the first one is now riveted in place so no way to easily
repair it when it broke. i got another before the last trip so i wouldn't be without, but am worried about it failing also.....
a tank solves many issues.
Larry check U2U.
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I use Hellium so when we get to where we are going and everyone gets punchy I can suck up some hellium to entertain the group
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by BooJumMan
The CO2 tanks are awesome for airing up, speed wise obviously, but as mentioned above the regulators do ice up a bit. I still haven't bought a CO2
tank, even though I've wanted one for years. The tanks do weigh quite a bit and take up a good amount of space....
Im surprised not anyone has mentioned the MV-50 compressors you buy from Pep Boys. They are $50 and have a higher flow rate than the expensive units.
I can fill my 35" tires from 20 to 40 psi in less then 5 mins each. I've had mine for about 6 years now, and its completely banged up, but still works
like new.
Here's a link, I know I am offtopic here, just adding to discussion:
http://www.amazon.com/Industries-MV50-SuperFlow-High-Volume-... |
That's what many of us have (Tsunami/ Q Industries) that Woody want's to ditch... He uses his so much, it just wears out... See a thread where he had
to rebuild it a while back. I have the same one (given to me) plus a Harbor Freight one (bought years ago). Both work, but the Harbor Freight one fuse
holder melts fuses... but is a tiny bit faster than the Tsunami 50... 6 psi per minute vs. 5. The cigarette lighter air pump from Coleman I used to
have filled tires at only 2 psi per minute. |
6 psi per minute? Maybe on a 13" tire, PSI per minute is a
ridiculous spec because PSI per minute depends on the volume of the tire you are pumping the air into. I have one of those Tsunamis and it's next to
useless when inflating the tires on my F350, I tried it once and it took 1/2 hour just to raise the pressure 5 psi, and the thing got so hot I
couldn't touch it. There is absolutely no way that I would ever be able to get the pressure of all 4 tires from 20 psi to 40 psi. The only rating
that can tell the capacity of a compressor is SCFM.
SCFM as it pertains to an air compressor stands for standard cubic feet per minute. This lets you know the volume of air that an air compressor
provides at a particular pressure.
[Edited on 3-20-2014 by monoloco]
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I've had a 20# co2 bottle for over 20 years. They work great but very bulky. The co2 tanks have to be tested every 5 years. When I need a refill, I
just exchange it.
I bought one of these about 2 years ago and it has worked great. I keep it in my buggy under the seat. They have more expensive ones but this one
works just fine for me.
http://www.offroadwarehouse.com/products/sfID1/1/sfID2/2/sfI...
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woody with a view
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yeah Bob, i'm on my 3rd one now. i bought a second cuz the first was so dependable. the second failed FAST.
need to try something else. will keep the pump as a spare.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
yeah Bob, i'm on my 3rd one now. i bought a second cuz the first was so dependable. the second failed FAST.
need to try something else. will keep the pump as a spare. |
I just recently replaced mine but not because it failed, because some dirtbag stole it out of my truck. The one I just bought blew it's fuse for some
reason that last time I used it. I forgot about that till just now. Need to look into that.
[Edited on 3-20-2014 by Bob53]
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a good old fashioned hand bicycle pump
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
I use Hellium so when we get to where we are going and everyone gets punchy I can suck up some hellium to entertain the group |
Fun stuff but not ideal for tires--
those tiny molecules leak out a lot faster. |
I'm going to send a quarter so some of you guys can buy a sense of humor.
It was a joke, that is why there was a laughing icon
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