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4x4abc
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never noticed the switchback trail
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Jaybo
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I priced out the new BFG KO2's at Costco here in Oregon - 285/16's $230 each out the door. That is significantly cheaper than the Toyo M/T's or even
the Hankook DynaPro M/T's I have now. Not sure how the warranty works buying from Costco, but I am really wanting to see how the tires hold up to
regular gravel road driving .. I have 8 miles a day when I drive my truck and tire life is 20-25k tops with my 02 Ford F350 CC diesel.
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wessongroup
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Should prove interest .. if ya buy them 
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Jaybo
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Yeah I still have about 5000 miles left on my Dynapro's (if I'm lucky...) so probably a coming summer purchase. Be interesting to see what the results
are from the early buyers..
I've never been a BFG fan so we'll see
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David K
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ECR Switchback leaving Santa Maria Valley
It is very faint, lined with rocks... the GPS waypoint I have posted for the El Camino Real's west end at the bulldozed road is where it begins. It
switches up the hill and meets that more obvious, almost dozed looking track that parallels the auto road to the arroyo in the valley.
Here are my 2007 photos of it:
On the mission trail looking south towards Arroyo Santa Maria, west of the canyon.
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On the auto road looking at the trail start. Note ducks/ cairns
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Looking down auto road coming from mission. The trail start is to my right.
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2010 photos:
Auto (bulldozed) road past the trailhead going to the canyon rim/ petros.
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Me at the start of the switchback trail at the auto road.
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The El Camino Real, note ocotillo growing from inside old old trail.
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4x4abc
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good stuff!
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David K
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Isn't Baja a GREAT place! 
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4x4abc
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would not want to be anywhere else
any information on San Juan de las Parras?
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David K
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I did a search, but only found my posts on El Camino Real. I thought some motorcycle riders had posted photos of it somewhere... perhaps on another
forum? I am thinking it was a ride with Bill Nichols, Kevin Ward and Kacey Smith?
Harry Crosby's map call it San Juan de las Palmas. The Almanac says Parras. Harry has another spot, on the west side of the mountain called Parras, up
stream from San Casimiro. Perhaps there are two, or the Almanac is wrong?
HERE for those wondering where this is:
The ranch or point-of-interest is along the Camino Real, eastern (or 'Gulfo') branch between San Ignacio and Santa Gertrudis.
The Gulf Side Camino Real is shown in the Almanac leaving San Ignacio straight north, veering east of CERRO SANTIAGO and dropping into ARROYO EL
INFIERNO, and follows it upstream.
SANTA MARTA was a visita and a resting place for Serra and others on the Camino Real. Continue north into ARROYO EL ROSARITO to the flat plain of SAN
GREGORIO. Here Crosby comments on how nowhere had the road (ECR) been so wide, straight, and clearly marked.
One of the El Camino Real routes goes almost to SAN CASIMIRO then turns north to EL CARRIZO, joins with the Pacific Side ECR and reaches Santa
Gertrudis.
A far east route goes from ARROYO SAN GREGORIO north through SAN JUAN DE LAS PARRAS, then swings westward and follows ARROYO SANTA GERTRUDIS to the
mission.
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David K
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After searching, I found the trip I was thinking of, but the wrong San Juan... de las Pilas, south of San Ignacio. Still a beautiful area! See Kevin
Ward's photos:
See the 65 photos here: Kevin Ward Baja Singletrack Trip
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4x4abc
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San Juan de las Palmas is very likely San Juan de las Parras. There is also a ranch east of San Casimiro that is sometimes called las Parras (or Las
Juntas) - I have hired a guide there once.
We have tried a couple of years ago to reach Juan de las Parras with 4x4. But we could not make it all the way due to a huge waterfall. We will try
again soon. There seems to be a trail south of the waterfall area ("the end" on the picture).
http://carlosnpainter.smugmug.com/Events/La-Fortuna/i-wx35TG...
[Edited on 12-10-2014 by 4x4abc]
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David K
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Wonderful... keep exploring and finding the way! Baja is a time machine!
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Well put, David. Time machine it is!
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David K
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Much (most) of what you see is the real deal when it comes to the missions. Here in the USA, the California missions are either all rebuilt, replicas,
or copies of what they think many of the missions looked like.
Now, the adobe mission ruins in northern Baja that were striped of protective roofing by Mexican immigrants the past 150 years and allowed to melt
down to stubs are perhaps a lot less interesting to visit than a modern recreation, but those stubs are the real physical remains of what was built in
Baja in the 1700's and 1800's by people who traveled years to civilize the region.
One adobe mission that was still impressive when I first visited it in 1974 was San Fernando de Velicatá (1769), the first Franciscan founded mission,
and the first founded by Junípero Serra (before San Diego):
40 years ago, 1974 and again in 1975 showing two sides of the mission:
10 years ago Dec. 2004:
My last two photos taken from a helicopter, June, 2014:
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