BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Passport
chuckie
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6082
Registered: 2-20-2012
Location: Kansas Prairies
Member Is Offline

Mood: Weary

[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 12:25 PM
Passport


I was just told that the "New" passport card cannot be used to fly, only to cross on foot? I don't believe that....Whats the deal??? Anybody



View user's profile
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline

Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja

[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 12:30 PM
Passport card


Land or sea only

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/...




View user's profile
RnR
Senior Nomad
***




Posts: 836
Registered: 5-1-2010
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 12:32 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
I was just told that the "New" passport card cannot be used to fly, only to cross on foot? I don't believe that....Whats the deal??? Anybody


Land or sea only.

It is printed on the back of the card on the left side.

[Edited on 12-21-2014 by RnR]

[Edited on 12-22-2014 by RnR]
View user's profile
theotherone
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 31
Registered: 10-25-2014
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 01:05 PM


Valid when entering the United States from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda at land border crossings or sea ports-of-entry.

Foreign Governments and the US cannot stamp passport cards and/or add visa pages to it. Be aware that when traveling by sea, if stopping in a foreign port of call, a US passport card may not be valid.

[Edited on 12-21-2014 by theotherone]
View user's profile
Whale-ista
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2009
Registered: 2-18-2013
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Sunny with chance of whales

[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 01:12 PM
1 size doesn't fit all


Fine print on the back of the cards notwithstanding: it's confusing.

Better yet- try explaining it to a car full of tired, inexperienced travelers when approaching the border gate and selecting which lane to go in ("OK, who has an RFID passport? A passport card? A drivers license?? Anything??")

Yet, judging by my travel planning, post-SENTRI acceptance, the various security systems (TSA Pre-Check, SENTRI, Global Traveller, Trusted Traveller etc.) are linked in the big network in the virtual sky. I put in my ID and - voilá- I am awarded a TSA pre-check boarding pass!

So- why they can't come up with a "1 size fits all" universal border entry card with electronic "stamping" capability, for those who are willing to pay for the convenience/efficiency and don't mind the additional pre-travel scrutiny?

Add it to the "We can land a satellite on a comet but we can't..." list of questions/complaints...

PS: for those who don't get the comet reference: http://www.universetoday.com/117443/new-pictures-of-philaes-...

[Edited on 12-21-2014 by Whale-ista]




\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
View user's profile
pauldavidmena
Super Nomad
****


Avatar


Posts: 1715
Registered: 5-23-2013
Location: Centerville, MA, USA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 03:48 PM


Some quick clarification for someone who doesn't visit Baja quite often enough: by "Passport" do you mean some card to expedite border crossing, or an actual passport?



Visit my Dreams of Pescadero blog:
http://dreamsofpescadero.wordpress.com/
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline

Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja

[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 04:01 PM


Passport card enables you to use the Ready Lane back to the US.....sometimes faster than regular crossing:

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/...


Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  
Some quick clarification for someone who doesn't visit Baja quite often enough: by "Passport" do you mean some card to expedite border crossing, or an actual passport?




View user's profile
chuckie
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6082
Registered: 2-20-2012
Location: Kansas Prairies
Member Is Offline

Mood: Weary

[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 04:01 PM


So? with the "passport card" May you walk across the border to the TJ airport, get on a plane and fly to Loreto?



View user's profile
sancho
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 2524
Registered: 10-6-2004
Location: OC So Cal
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 04:06 PM


The Passport card has been around for maybe 4 yrs.? One
could never fly internationally with one, it is my understanding
Mex Imm

will issue a passport card holder an fmm. I believe
one can fly domestically with one, like TJ/Cabo
View user's profile
RnR
Senior Nomad
***




Posts: 836
Registered: 5-1-2010
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 05:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  
Some quick clarification for someone who doesn't visit Baja quite often enough: by "Passport" do you mean some card to expedite border crossing, or an actual passport?


It is a plastic card, smaller than a credit card, that is equal to the normal passport booklet, but only intended for land or sea entry. Not for air travel.

The nice thing. It fits in your wallet.
View user's profile
Alm
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 2729
Registered: 5-10-2011
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 07:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Whale-ista  
try explaining it to a car full of tired, inexperienced travelers when approaching the border gate and selecting which lane to go in ("OK, who has an RFID passport? A passport card? A drivers license?? Anything??")

RFID passport is just a passport. Regular great unwashed, only with remotely-readable chip. No soup for you. No ready-lane, no sentri, no nothing.

Passport card should - I think - be in possession of a driver, doesn't matter what passengers have. Though I don't use it, so might be wrong here.

Drivers License is not a border-crossing ID, in the last 5(?) years. Nor it gives any privileges like ready-lane.

Quote: Originally posted by Whale-ista  
So- why they can't come up with a "1 size fits all" universal border entry card with electronic "stamping" capability, for those who are willing to pay for the convenience/efficiency and don't mind the additional pre-travel scrutiny?

Border entry ID or a card that gives certain "convenience/efficiency" privileges for those willing to pay? These are two different things. Can be combined, but not everybody would want to combine (and pay for that), otherwise ready/nexus/sentri lanes would become meaningless, because everybody would be using them. You wouldn't want this.

Besides, both US and international border-crossing regulations have too many contradictions, conditions and mutual differences to be reconciled successfully in one US-issued card.
View user's profile
chuckie
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6082
Registered: 2-20-2012
Location: Kansas Prairies
Member Is Offline

Mood: Weary

[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 07:22 PM


So? Once again...With the passport card ,can one walk across the border at TJ airport, get an FMM and fly to Loreto?



View user's profile
sancho
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 2524
Registered: 10-6-2004
Location: OC So Cal
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 08:15 PM


With a great deal of confidence, yes, one can fly WITHIN
Mex with a passport card. You just cannot fly into Mex



from the US. It is my understanding, just like Sentri lane,
everyone in the vehicle needs the passport card to use
the ready lane
View user's profile
theotherone
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 31
Registered: 10-25-2014
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-21-2014 at 09:59 PM


Technically, according to CBP officers, all passengers including the driver need to have RFID-enabled cards when traveling in a Ready Lane.

But...I have crossed numerous times using Ready Lanes at both Calexico (East) & San Ysidro without a RFID-enabled card. I was never the driver, just a passenger with a regular US Passport. My wife was the driver, using her US Passport Card, but I was never questioned and/or lectured to by a CBP officer.
View user's profile

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262