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[*] posted on 12-30-2014 at 08:37 PM
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Very interesting piece on how relying on the Rio Grande to define the border was flawed, here. I had no idea.
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[*] posted on 12-31-2014 at 01:00 AM


Too true... I spent 8 years living next to the San Juan River which is the international border between the U.S. and the Navajo Nation. Same thing; Earth Happens. Rivers move, channels move... in this case the river was dammed upstream, channel diverted and pushed to one side of a valley, and farming developed. The Navajos took the land dispute to court (just in the last 10 years), and won. The local Biliganas (white folk) were furious; "our famblies have been on that thar land fer FIVE GENERATIONS!!".... however, the Navajo had been on it for many more than that, and the farmers had to give a swath back. Rivers make for fickle boundaries.

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[*] posted on 12-31-2014 at 10:29 AM
Boundaries


Are those that you can defend.

Ask the Ukrainians.
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[*] posted on 12-31-2014 at 10:40 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Too true... I spent 8 years living next to the San Juan River which is the international border between the U.S. and the Navajo Nation. Same thing; Earth Happens. Rivers move, channels move... in this case the river was dammed upstream, channel diverted and pushed to one side of a valley, and farming developed. The Navajos took the land dispute to court (just in the last 10 years), and won. The local Biliganas (white folk) were furious; "our famblies have been on that thar land fer FIVE GENERATIONS!!".... however, the Navajo had been on it for many more than that, and the farmers had to give a swath back. Rivers make for fickle boundaries.

[Edited on 12-31-2014 by bajabuddha]


Excellent input, Buddha. I have a friend (a retired Archeologist and Fed. Special Agent) who lives in Bluff, UT on the San Juan River who understands your point well. I say this case was fairly adjudicated. :yes:

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