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weebray
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Quote: Originally posted by bledito  | present day high effeciency machines use less than half that amount. when the cost of water or scarcity of it commences you'll see a lot more folks
washings a lot less, clothes included
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I don't believe that the majority of machines being sold are "high efficiency". Go check out your local store. But even if they were if we could
save only 15 gal./wash the numbers are staggering. I also don't believe market forces will change the wasteful practices of the masses. They will
simply sigh and pay the forking water bill. Only the poorest will be affected.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: Originally posted by weebray | The rinse water is perfect for the next wash. Why don't they make a machine that does this automatically? /rquote]
Could be done easily but for one matter.
Where do you store the 30 gallons of water before the next wash?
Can't be done in the machine so have to have another storage basin.
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weebray
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Just found what I was looking for.........thanks to Wikipedia!
The early electric washers were single-tub, wringer-type machines, as fully automatic washing machines were extremely expensive. During the 1960s,
twin tub machines briefly became very popular, helped by the low price of the Rolls Razor washers. Some machines had the ability to pump used wash
water into a separate tub for temporary storage, and to later pump it back for re-use. This was done not to save water or soap, but because heated
water was expensive and time-consuming to produce.
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willardguy
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okay riddle me this. it sounds like fresh water is running low, especially in baja sur. why not take a page from Avalon and start using saltwater to
flush toilets,wash cloths and shower in? sailors wash clothes in seawater,heck you could wash em in seawater then rinse in freshwater. the water we
use in gonzaga bay is damn near saltwater, showers still feel great to me. I can remember many seaside hotels in baja having saltwater showers,some
were even hot! (well warm)
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bufeo
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| Quote: Originally posted by willardguy | | okay riddle me this. it sounds like fresh water is running low, especially in baja sur. why not take a page from Avalon and start using saltwater to
flush toilets,wash cloths and shower in? sailors wash clothes in seawater,heck you could wash em in seawater then rinse in freshwater. the water we
use in gonzaga bay is damn near saltwater, showers still feel great to me. I can remember many seaside hotels in baja having saltwater showers,some
were even hot! (well warm) |
Our house at Punta Bufeo had two water systems. Fresh went to kitchen and baths (basins and showers). Salt went to baths (toilets and showers, with
separate faucets for salt/fresh). We showered with salt and rinsed off with fresh. Toilets functioned fine with salt water. We had water heaters for
both salt and fresh.
I don't know if the new occupants have made any changes or not, but this system worked really well.
Our washing machine was the wringer type and we always re-used the rinse water for the next load.
Allen R.
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sounds interesting salt and fresh. what type of piping was used? was the salt water from a well near the beach or pumped directly from the sea/ocean?
was it filtered first? how well did the fixtures hold up to the salt and what kind of residuale was left over in the showers sinks and toilets?
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bufeo
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Plastic for everything up to the ends, if I remember correctly. I say that because a friend of ours built the house and I don't remember
seeing/repairing anything other than PVC.
The saltwater came from a sand spike punched into the sand/pumice. Neither of the waters were filtered. We always cleaned off the saltwater shower
head with fresh water before leaving it for an extended time. Occasionally there would be some salt buildup in the toilet tank, but it easily cleaned.
In the nine years we had the house I think I replaced the float systems (two toilets) once.
The kitchen sink and the bathroom basins were freshwater only.
In point of fact the whole plumbing system was exactly like the system we had on our trawler.
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We bought a Whirlpool washing machine, model # 7MWC87730, from Costco in Cabo in April 2009. This has worked great for us, we start a 2800 watt
generator to power it and to do a bit of charging of the solar batteries. Just never tried to run it solely on the solar system, might have to try it
and see. Wife prefers this machine to the front loading Maytag we bought new on 8-12 in Washington.
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