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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 02:13 PM
map error?


checking the INEGI 50K maps
came across "Mision Santa Agueda"
what's your opinion David?
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found mistakes on pretty much every topo so far
maybe this is one of them




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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 04:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
checking the INEGI 50K maps
came across "Mision Santa Agueda"
what's your opinion David?
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found mistakes on pretty much every topo so far
maybe this is one of them


Yes, sadly the government cartographers in D.F. just don't seem to have the passion for details or accuracy!

The site is on the Baja Almanac maps, but without the word 'Mision' with it. The 2003 Almanac has a church symbol for it, but the 2009 Almanac just back square. It seems to be on a eastern branch of El Camino Real, but east of the one Harry Crosby shows on his map.

Neal Johns was the first to discuss this with me I think... he tried to find a way to get his Tacoma in there to investigate, or wanted to. Perhaps with Bing or Google Earth?

EDIT: as for mission connection, not a mission and not a published visita, but it could have been... I will go over my Jesuit writings again, but I don't recall any mention of it... stay tuned!

[Edited on 2-26-2015 by David K]




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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 04:20 PM


Google only has blurry images for that area



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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 05:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Google only has blurry images for that area


Bing has newer and better images...

Here is Santa Agueda per the map, on Bing, and it is a tinaja where the trail meets the arroyo (see a short switch back to the left of the tinaja). Oh, the older Baja Topo Atlas has Mision with the name.

GPS is N28 10' 7.7", W113 4' 11.4" (don't know how to change to decimal minutes from minutes and seconds on Bing)




Now, here is a higher view, you can see the dry lake bed at the top of the image. The tinaja is still in the center with the cross hair over it...



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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 05:23 PM


map makers place errors in random places so they can easily tell if someone is infringing on their copyright, copying their maps and selling them as their own.



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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 06:19 PM


Map Traps: Intentional Mapping Errors to Combat Plagiarism



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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 08:12 PM


Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
map makers place errors in random places so they can easily tell if someone is infringing on their copyright, copying their maps and selling them as their own.


We are talking government topo maps in this case, paid for by the taxpayers, so I am not sure if that is the same as private (for profit) made maps? Still, the errors are there... On the Mexican topos (and in the Almanac made from them) many, many errors... wrong names for arroyos, bays, points, etc.





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[*] posted on 2-26-2015 at 11:04 PM


Probably a socialist plot.....



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