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Ken Cooke
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At the Truckhaven Training Area on Saturday, a driver of a 4Runner smashed his washer reservoir/pump combo on a concrete pipe. I was amazed at how
little protection exists behind the front bumper, under the wheelwell. His 4Runner was stock, not modified. It just wasn't the sort of vehicle meant
for off roading at Truckhaven. As for Cherokee's, they aren't serious off road vehicles, either.
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ehall
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I am hoping the PLR is a complete rockcrawling nightmare so we can settle this Jeep vs. Toyota competition. ( at least temporarily) lol
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sd
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My 2014 standard cab 4WD Tacoma-
Reservoir is at top, directly behind passenger side headlight.
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by sd  | My 2014 standard cab 4WD Tacoma-
Reservoir is at top, directly behind passenger side headlight. |
Yup, far from the tire...
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Ken Cooke
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The 4Runner and the Tacoma were engineered for different uses. The 4Runner appears more like my Honda Pilot under the hood.
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CortezBlue
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Buy a F150 and
foe-get-about-it
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dtbushpilot
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My new 4Runner TRD PRO will be here the end of the month, I'll be interested to see if they have more protection for it in a dedicated offroad design.
Anyone looking for a 2007 FJ Cruiser in excellent condition?
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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MMc
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If the only thing wrong with the Taco is where the windshield water is stored. It must be pretty good. After all, they are just a way to get
somewhere. If I need to get out and wash my windows so be it.
Two pages on a window washer? WTF.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by MMc | If the only thing wrong with the Taco is where the windshield water is stored. It must be pretty good. After all, they are just a way to get
somewhere. If I need to get out and wash my windows so be it.
Two pages on a window washer? WTF. |
Seriously, right? 
It is Ken justifying his Jeep love, but it isn't necessary. People like me, John M, Marian Johns who used to own Jeeps and now own Tacomas just are a
lot of pressure to bare. So, any flaw is going to be brought up, and that's okay with me. Seriously, the Rubicon and 4WD Off Road Tacoma are not even
the same class vehicle for the same purpose. What they share is four wheel drive, rear locker, and about the same min. ground clearance (I think)...
mine with stock tires was 9.25 inches under the differential.
I love Jeeps, because they are historic... the first civilian mass produced 4WD vehicles/ SUVs. My love for Baja took place in a Jeep Wagoneer in the
60's. If Jeep made quality and reliable vehicles, I would own one... well if they made pickups again. I almost bought a Comanche.
How Rubicons and Tacoma Off Road 4WDs are different is: Lack of cargo room. The Rubicon is really just for two people with hardly any room for camping
comforts. The Rubicon is SHORT wheelbase and thus can maneuver much, much better off road. The Rubicon has a front locker, where as the Tacoma has
A-TRAC (like an automatic anti spin system on the front and rear).
So, really different vehicles, but for a small truck, the Tacoma is amazing in comfort, off road ability, cargo carrying, reliability.
The Rubicon is amazing on off road ability (greater than the Tacomas) if you want to do something tougher than the road to Mission Santa Maria. Makes
a great weekend fun vehicle (as long as you own another car for the rest of your transportation needs). Plus it is a Jeep, with roots that go back to
1940 and '41 with the first prototypes created for the army...
The first 'Jeep', American Bantam Co. #1 Pilot Model 1940
The second test model 1940 Bantam BRC-60 (Mark II)
Willys-Overland 'Quad' test model, 1940
Ford 'Pygmy' test model, 1940
Here is the Universal Jeep chart...
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sd
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Well said David.
I purchased a new Rubicon in 2003, kept in in Baja for much of the 3 1/2 years I owned it. Short wheelbase was great. I was a dirt road explorer, not
an off road guy. Bugged me that it needed a new water pump at 13,000 miles, but was over 3 years old so out of warranty. Jeep dealer thought they
would pay for it, but no, bill was mine.
Now have the 2014 Tacoma, just one Baja trip so far. 20,000 miles on it, comfortable and happy with the purchase.
Both I could recommend, and agree I would not want to use the Rubicon as a daily driver, where the Toyota is fine. Just my thoughts having owned both.
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