rocmoc
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Remembering El Nino!
Wonder if anyone remembers the weather from past El Ninos. We were in Loreto Feb. '97 and the daytime temp was well into the 80's. Fishing was
great. Water temp warm and comfortable to swim in. With all the scare about this winter's El Nino, I did a search on the net for past weather in
Baja and came up empty handed. What are your memories?
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
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Ateo
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I remember almost dying in double/triple overhead surf at Baja Malibu! No one else out. Salsipuedes must've been perfect that day..................
Interested to hear other's stories.
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satmike
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We spend our winters at Punta San Carlos south of El Rosario. The 40 mile dirt road gets real interesting with all the rain. The years the bridges on
hy.1 washed out were El Nino winters.
More Norte winds and more big NW swell.
[Edited on 8-23-2015 by satmike]
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bajabuddha
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The El Niņos of '62 and '63 left the Colorado River drainage in carnage. They had been coming out of a 'monumental drought' much like what's
happening today, so the Dam(n) watershed had over-stored. Glen Canyon Dam(n) was almost lost two years in a row. Want proof? Read Steve Hannon's
"Glen Canyon" to see what almost really did happen then, and eventually will.
In late May and early June 1983 the 'Powers That Be' wouldn't let even commercial boaters raft Cataract Canyon. It was so huge do to run-off melt
that they shut down boating in the Canyon systems because NOBODY had ever seen these waters as big, EVER. Long story shorter, I was a boatman that
went down the week they opened it, the 2nd week of June, 1963....
Same thing on the Green River through Dinosaur Nat't Park. No one had seen the river through Lodore as big as since Flaming Gorge Dam was built....
also was blessed to boat that canyon too. Utter chaos, utter paradise.
El Niņo means ALL BETS ARE OFF. Gee, I think I've typed that before here. It's a topsy-turvy of earth's basic 'normal' patterns, so all effects
will be AB-normal. As in, hemispherical, if not globally. It's like a cosmic circus; buy yer popcorn, take yer seats, and watch the show and the
fireworks. Ye Gods, look around at our own situations, with fires, drought (oh, excuse me, ALLEGEDED drought), whale die-offs in record numbers in
Alaska, etc., etc.......
This is not supporting "Global Climate Change" in any way. This is on-topic with El Niņos only. If the former IS coupled in, Katy bar the door.
Hold 'er Newt, she's a headed for the barn.
Gawd I love weather and the Mother, it's just so stupendous and awe-inspiring to watch!
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Ateo
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Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  | The El Niņos of '62 and '63 left the Colorado River drainage in carnage. They had been coming out of a 'monumental drought' much like what's
happening today, so the Dam(n) watershed had over-stored. Glen Canyon Dam(n) was almost lost two years in a row. Want proof? Read Steve Hannon's
"Glen Canyon" to see what almost really did happen then, and eventually will.
In late May and early June 1983 the 'Powers That Be' wouldn't let even commercial boaters raft Cataract Canyon. It was so huge do to run-off melt
that they shut down boating in the Canyon systems because NOBODY had ever seen these waters as big, EVER. Long story shorter, I was a boatman that
went down the week they opened it, the 2nd week of June, 1963....
Same thing on the Green River through Dinosaur Nat't Park. No one had seen the river through Lodore as big as since Flaming Gorge Dam was built....
also was blessed to boat that canyon too. Utter chaos, utter paradise.
El Niņo means ALL BETS ARE OFF. Gee, I think I've typed that before here. It's a topsy-turvy of earth's basic 'normal' patterns, so all effects
will be AB-normal. As in, hemispherical, if not globally. It's like a cosmic circus; buy yer popcorn, take yer seats, and watch the show and the
fireworks. Ye Gods, look around at our own situations, with fires, drought (oh, excuse me, ALLEGEDED drought), whale die-offs in record numbers in
Alaska, etc., etc.......
This is not supporting "Global Climate Change" in any way. This is on-topic with El Niņos only. If the former IS coupled in, Katy bar the door.
Hold 'er Newt, she's a headed for the barn.
Gawd I love weather and the Mother, it's just so stupendous and awe-inspiring to watch! |
You are one of my favorite members here.
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rocmoc
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Great info bajabuddha BUT interested in BAJA! There is plenty of info about the States but nearly nothing about Baja. Just because it maybe a bad
winter in the Southern part of the USA does not mean it will be in Baja & Mainland Mexico. Hoping to get true stories / info from people who were
in Baja during past El Ninos.
rocmoc n Az/Mexico
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I remember catching Dorado and Yellowfin just SW of San Diego in 97.Super still waters and 90 degree muggy heat 6 mi out to sea.
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The spill over from '62-'63 filled Flaming Gorge in record time....remember when we thought we could have 50 years of water stored in the Colorado
River basin?
'97-'98 were not big for the interior states and precipitation....snow totals were pretty much on track with normal. January bailed out everyone with
a big storm track.
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Northern and Central Colorado: These areas were below average through December and close to average thereafter, except for a strong April. This season
illustrates Winter Park's consistency. It is influenced by several different storm patterns, and tends to do relatively well in below average years.
In the big years for this region, Winter Park will not have quite the huge numbers recorded at Vail and particularly Steamboat. Winter Park's new
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El Niņo '82-83 our little campo on the pac side saw half a dozen bluff top homes crash down the cliff onto the beach and several more made
uninhabitable. Also all the sand on our half mile long beach washed down the coast. It took 25 years for the beach to get back to its old self and its
still not quite the same. There was some crazy scary surf including a day out at Califia where the waves were breaking from the point all the way
across the bay resulting in two of the longest scariest waves I ever rode. Paddling out I was leery because of the size and then it kept getting
bigger as the afternoon wore on. The real problem that day was trying to exit the water with high tide and head high shore break crashing at the base
of the cliff at bus stops. Oddly I never surfed that wave again after that experience. 
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