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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 02:19 PM


Cool pics. Thanks for sharing! :bounce:
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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 03:54 PM


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I hear it's unsafe there. :biggrin:


This is ironic. As much as I love Baja, this was the most unsafe I have ever felt. Re: drug runners. Let's just say I was "encouraged" to get the heck off of Bahia San Rafael with both land and sea intimidation.




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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 04:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Pappy Jon  
Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  

I hear it's unsafe there. :biggrin:


This is ironic. As much as I love Baja, this was the most unsafe I have ever felt. Re: drug runners. Let's just say I was "encouraged" to get the heck off of Bahia San Rafael with both land and sea intimidation.


Next time, you'll spend your money the right way, and stay in a clean, KOA campground! :yes:




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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 04:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Pappy Jon  
Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  

I hear it's unsafe there. :biggrin:


This is ironic. As much as I love Baja, this was the most unsafe I have ever felt. Re: drug runners. Let's just say I was "encouraged" to get the heck off of Bahia San Rafael with both land and sea intimidation.


Wow, that needs a little more info added. Encouraged by who....Federales, growers, shippers?

I have camped there a couple of times, and never saw anyone other than Pancho, and on one trip there was a guy down the beach from Pancho. He was in a tent, and appeared to be guarding some fishing gear, but he was friendly and totally unconcerned about me being there.




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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 04:46 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  

Next time, you'll spend your money the right way, and stay in a clean, KOA campground! :yes:


Only if the US and Mexico close the border. Baja is plenty big enough.




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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 04:58 PM


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Wow, that needs a little more info added. Encouraged by who....Federales, growers, shippers?


Both ends of the supply chain. Involved 5 fishing boats, one that put very bright spot lights on me at 2am, then played a game of cat-and-mouse intimidation when I didn't leave that day. It also involved a semi-flat bed truck parked at the beach just west of my camp ... and a kid in a Toyota pickup, along with 4 young men who mysteriously appeared at dusk walking into my camp from the direction of Punta Ballena.

The Toyota returned east towards Punta Ballena, then turned south towards San Francisquito on the other side of the lagoon.




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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 05:45 PM


That would be disturbing! From four thousand miles away it would be easy to say 'Stand your ground', but 'Know when to fold them' comes to mind when I think about camping there alone.

My guess would be that you were camped in the middle of an illegal fish harvest, rather than drugs, but the end result is the same.

Thanks for the information!




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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 06:58 PM


Sorry that happened to you, Jon!
We camped one night on the beach a mile or 2 north of Pancho's (in 2012) and only a coyote or two came into our camp!

Well after sundown...





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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 07:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
My guess would be that you were camped in the middle of an illegal fish harvest, rather than drugs, but the end result is the same.


Could have been illegal fishing. They did catch a sealion pup. They shot it so I knew they were armed. The mom spent the entire morning calling for it. It was pretty sad, especially since I knew what happened.

Thing is, when I woke up after dealing with the kids in the Toyota there were three pallets of "stuff" at the far end of the lagoon that was not there the evening before

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Sorry that happened to you, Jon! We camped one night on the beach a mile or 2 north of Pancho's (in 2012) and only a coyote or two came into our camp!


I think I've camped on that same beach a few times. It really blew out in the hurricanes last summer. Great spot.


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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 07:38 PM


Didn't you have a 'close call' out on the beach east of Arroyo Calamajué or was it just Coco warning you about it?

Too bad about poachers and drug runners screwing up the one last desert wilderness next to the sea!




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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 07:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Didn't you have a 'close call' out on the beach east of Arroyo Calamajué or was it just Coco warning you about it?

Too bad about poachers and drug runners screwing up the one last desert wilderness next to the sea!


I really didn't have any issues at the beach south of Calamajué a few years ago. Coco warned me about this beach and said it wasn't safe. I did have a fisherman make me uncomfortable that trip, but I didn't feel threatened.

I stayed there this last trip. Fabulous. Coco told me it was better a year ago because Calamajué had fewer people. I did see a lot of pangas on the water in April off this beach, so I wondered if there were more people at Calamajué. Nobody had driven to this beach since the hurricanes. I was blazing new tracks.




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[*] posted on 8-30-2015 at 08:22 PM


Great photos, thanks



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