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DawnPatrol
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Nice!
I have never met you but I like your style....
Alan from SD
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TMW
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Here is some info I came across. Use the Sindicatura web site.
* If you feel you have been treated unfairly by a police officer get his badge number and license plate number and tell him you will be contacting the
Sindicatura (seen-dee-kah-too-ra). In most cases if you are clearly in the right this will send the cop on his way. The Sindicatura investigate
corrupt police officers.
If you have a complaint against a police officer or other city official, you can contact the City of Tijuana Internal Affairs at 688-2810, 24 hours a
day. You can also register your complaint, in person at City Hall, or via the Internet at the following address: http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/
complaints/index.asp
USA Consulate in Cabo:
Consular Agent in Cabo San Lucas
(An extension of the Consulate in Tijuana)
Blvd. Marina Local C-4
Plaza Nautica
Centro
Cabo San
Lucas, B.C.S. 23410
Monday-Friday: 9:00 a.m.-2:00 p.m.
Phone: [52] (624) 143-3566,
Fax: [52] (624) 143-6750
E-Mail: usconsulcabo@yahoo.com
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TMW
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From Discover Baja:
We know that being pulled over by a police officer while driving in a foreign country can be a scary experience. The most important thing is to remain
calm, be respectful and know your rights. You may have heard stories about people being pulled over and having to give a “mordida” (bribe) to the cop
because they were worried they were going to be thrown into jail if they didn’t. Giving them money for a bribe is both unnecessary and illegal. The
Baja Secretary of Tourism and the Mexican government are on your side and want the police to stop this behavior, but they rely on help from tourists
to report the problem and to stop feeding into it by offering the cops bribes.
We’ve partnered with the Baja Secretary of Tourism to answer some of your questions about what to do if you’re pulled over, and we’ve put together a
document for you to print out and keep in your car while driving in Baja. The printout outlines procedures for you to follow and also doubles as a
document that you can show to the officer (there’s a section in Spanish) to let them know that you’re aware of your rights and will be reporting any
misconduct to the Board of Tourism.
-If you are stopped by a police officer for a traffic violation, you should request a written citation from the officer. Traffic citations are written
in both English and Spanish and will contain instruction on how to pay the fee. You can mail your fine to Mexico from the U.S.
-Never attempt to bribe or give money to the officer. It is both corrupt for them to ask for money and illegal for you to bribe a police officer. You
can be fined and thrown in jail.
-In some cases, the officer will ask you to follow them to the police station. If you are being pulled over for a minor infraction, you are not
required to go to the police station. Ask for the written citation and you can pay it by mail from the U.S.
-If you feel like you’ve been fined unfairly, take note of the time, location, vehicle identification number and badge number of the officer. You can
contact the State Secretary of Tourism 24/7 by dialing 078 to report the information. If you’re a Discover Baja member, you can also email us at
ask@discoverbaja.com with the above information and we will contact the Secretary of Tourism directly for you.
Download and print this document to keep in your glovebox and show to the officer if you’re pulled over.
Driving to Baja? Don’t forget your Mexican auto insurance! Discover Baja has the best rates and the highest-quality insurance. Visit www.discoverbajaonline.com or call 800-727-2252 for more information.
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Mula
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Thank you all for your responses. I have copied and sent this to the people involved.
The guy was from Alberta towing a huge 5th wheel trailer heading north. The Police originally wanted $200 USD.
He would not go for that and went to the police station with the officer. This was last Sunday afternoon. There was only one other officer at the
station and both officers had guns.
He negitiated them down to 1700 pesos. The officers took the guy to the ATM and waited while he got their 1700 pesos.
He asked for a receipt and a ticket. They said 'NO."
That's all I know. Thanks for your help.
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larryC
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  | From Discover Baja:
We know that being pulled over by a police officer while driving in a foreign country can be a scary experience. The most important thing is to remain
calm, be respectful and know your rights. You may have heard stories about people being pulled over and having to give a “mordida” (bribe) to the cop
because they were worried they were going to be thrown into jail if they didn’t. Giving them money for a bribe is both unnecessary and illegal. The
Baja Secretary of Tourism and the Mexican government are on your side and want the police to stop this behavior, but they rely on help from tourists
to report the problem and to stop feeding into it by offering the cops bribes.
We’ve partnered with the Baja Secretary of Tourism to answer some of your questions about what to do if you’re pulled over, and we’ve put together a
document for you to print out and keep in your car while driving in Baja. The printout outlines procedures for you to follow and also doubles as a
document that you can show to the officer (there’s a section in Spanish) to let them know that you’re aware of your rights and will be reporting any
misconduct to the Board of Tourism.
-If you are stopped by a police officer for a traffic violation, you should request a written citation from the officer. Traffic citations are written
in both English and Spanish and will contain instruction on how to pay the fee. You can mail your fine to Mexico from the U.S.
-Never attempt to bribe or give money to the officer. It is both corrupt for them to ask for money and illegal for you to bribe a police officer. You
can be fined and thrown in jail.
-In some cases, the officer will ask you to follow them to the police station. If you are being pulled over for a minor infraction, you are not
required to go to the police station. Ask for the written citation and you can pay it by mail from the U.S.
-If you feel like you’ve been fined unfairly, take note of the time, location, vehicle identification number and badge number of the officer. You can
contact the State Secretary of Tourism 24/7 by dialing 078 to report the information. If you’re a Discover Baja member, you can also email us at
ask@discoverbaja.com with the above information and we will contact the Secretary of Tourism directly for you.
Download and print this document to keep in your glovebox and show to the officer if you’re pulled over.
Driving to Baja? Don’t forget your Mexican auto insurance! Discover Baja has the best rates and the highest-quality insurance. Visit www.discoverbajaonline.com or call 800-727-2252 for more information.
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Is there a link to the form mentioned above or just get the info requested and turn it in? I went to discoverbajaonline but did not see the form
referred to.
[Edited on 2-19-2016 by larryC]
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TMW
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Try this Larry.
http://www.discoverbaja.com/wp-content/uploads/TRAFFIC-VIOLA...
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JoeJustJoe
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The "Sindicatura gob.mx" website used to say, "click" English" and then they had an area where you could send your written complaint to the
"Sindicatura" in Tijuana.
However, everybody that I know including myself, that has actually sent in a complaint, never received a reply back from the "Sindicatura," you will
have more luck calling them on the phone, or better yet filing your complaint in person. You should have the name of the alleged corrupt cop, badge
number, and/or police car number if possible.
Many Baja forum, at least four or five forums going back many years, have also advocated either getting a business card from the "Sindicatura" or
printing out some kind of "Sindicatura" bumper stickers, label, or card and either posting it on your vehicle, or keeping in your wallet and taking
out the Sindicatura" card when you're approached by a corrupt Mexican cop.
So yes, there are a few American tourists, who use the "Sindicatura" card or sticker the same way possible victims use a Christian cross to ward off
vampires.
I have heard of both successful and unsuccessful stories using the Sindicatura card as some type of apotropaic magic amulet, when coming face to face
with a corrupt cop looking for a bribe.
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joerover
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I once asked a tijuana police man for a photo
no para mi, para sindicatura. My money went back in my pocket and out of his. He kept 400 pesos or so, but I got 2,000 back. Tijuana police really
rob people. I stopped going to Ensenada, because of bandidos con placas. Are they still getting worse every year.
Has anyone ever visited Mexico without getting robbed by a government employe?
I do not drive into Mexico.
| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | Here is some info I came across. Use the Sindicatura web site.
* If you feel you have been treated unfairly by a police officer get his badge number and license plate number and tell him you will be contacting the
Sindicatura (seen-dee-kah-too-ra). In most cases if you are clearly in the right this will send the cop on his way. The Sindicatura investigate
corrupt police officers.
If you have a complaint against a police officer or other city official, you can contact the City of Tijuana Internal Affairs at 688-2810, 24 hours a
day. You can also register your complaint, in person at City Hall, or via the Internet at the following address: http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/
complaints/index.asp
USA Consulate in Cabo:
Consular Agent in Cabo San Lucas
(An extension of the Consulate in Tijuana)
Blvd. Marina Local C-4
Plaza Nautica
Centro
Cabo San
Lucas, B.C.S. 23410
Monday-Friday: 9:00 a.m.-2:00 p.m.
Phone: [52] (624) 143-3566,
Fax: [52] (624) 143-6750
E-Mail: usconsulcabo@yahoo.com
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the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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joerover
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every time they fix a leak a new one springs up
heroin is the reason why
when the real problem is addressed the problem will get better
until then the tourists will continue to get robbed buy police
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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bajatrailrider
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by Mula | I never had a problem with either place - either.
But a neighbor's son just got shook down Sunday afternoon in Tecate for 1700 pesos - and no ticket and no receipt.
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Maybe you never had trouble with the police because you never did anything illegal.
Maybe, your neighbor's son, who allegedly got "shook down" did something illegal. Today most teen kids and young adults, are at least pot heads,
engage in under age drinking, or sometimes they speed in their cars.
The parents are often the last to know.
It's been my experience witnessing a few Mexican shake down over the years,,often the shake down of the victims are at least a little guilty of their
alleged crimes, otherwise they would put up a better fight resisting a shake down attempt, if they were truly not guilty of anything.
If a tourism board has power over the police, you would think they would already have any problem with corrupt police shake downs solved.
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Thanks, in advance. Report them to board of tourism,They have power over the police.That the police don't want to deal with. I have proof of this.
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Bajatrailrider wrote: you mention you have proof. What proof do you have? My proof,come here to the police station.I can have the police explain it
to you.Would that be proof? Im only trying to help this person.If the police took a bribe,you report it.Trust me things happen to him.
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David K
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Trying to figure out who said what can be very confusing when using quotes IF you don't begin your reply AFTER the last [/quote ] tag.
Otherwise, your reply becomes part of the other Nomad's quote with just nothing in your part of the reply box.
It is not easy, and we all have accidentally typed before the ending [/quote ] tag.
You can EDIT and fix your posts/ replies by copying your part and pasting it after that /quote tag and then erase the wrong place it was typed.
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