BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Question for the Baja California map expert, DK
fdt
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4059
Registered: 9-7-2003
Location: Tijuana, Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Yeah, what if it all goes right

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 03:05 PM
Question for the Baja California map expert, DK


On the trailer for the new documentary about Harry Crosby, Los senderos de la peninsula, on minute 00:54, Harry is showing a very large map and is saying that he knows of no other single piece of work that provides such a range of information. Do you know this map? Is it a map?

Here is the trailer https://vimeo.com/158758712

Isaac Artenstein from Tijuana is producing it and they showed the trailer last month in La Paz during the film festival.




A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
fdt
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4059
Registered: 9-7-2003
Location: Tijuana, Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Yeah, what if it all goes right

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 03:27 PM


Or does anyone else know?:light:



A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
BornFisher
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2107
Registered: 1-11-2005
Location: K-38 Santa Martha/Encinitas
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 03:40 PM


Trailer was great. That map was the biggest map I`ve ever seen!!!!



"When you catch a fish, you open the door of happiness."
View user's profile
fdt
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4059
Registered: 9-7-2003
Location: Tijuana, Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Yeah, what if it all goes right

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 03:46 PM


With so much information maybe it's a book with a giant fold out map?




A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
gsbotanico
Nomad
**




Posts: 209
Registered: 7-28-2015
Location: Cardiff by the Sea, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 04:00 PM


Excellent trailer! Any estimate when the documentary will be finished? I'm eager to see the whole thing. The final photograph of the three men is so intriguing. All three look very Spanish. And Arce and Villavicencio are two of the oldest surnames in Baja.
View user's profile
BajaNomad
Super Administrator
*********


Avatar


Posts: 4999
Registered: 8-1-2002
Location: San Diego, CA
Member Is Offline

Mood: INTP-A

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 04:23 PM


http://www.amazon.com/Missions-California-Peninsula-Spanish-...

"Includes a foldout map six feet long and many illustrations and photos."



91cJ77qzlOLb.jpg - 210kB




When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel

We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

https://www.regionalinternet.com
Affordable Domain Name Registration/Management & cPanel Web Hosting - since 1999
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 05:04 PM


Obviously not Bing Crosby's son.
View user's profile
fdt
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4059
Registered: 9-7-2003
Location: Tijuana, Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Yeah, what if it all goes right

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 05:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
http://www.amazon.com/Missions-California-Peninsula-Spanish-...

"Includes a foldout map six feet long and many illustrations and photos."



The answer was right there, lol. That's what limited information comes from just a trailer :lol::lol:

Thanks Doug




A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64858
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 05:25 PM


Hi Ferna,
I see Doug has produced the folding map cover...

Yes, it is big, totally useless in the field. It is fun as it is so huge to open up for a short time on a big table or the floor. Maybe it is good for some kind of wall decoration if torn from the cover... or a quick look.

The map is not very accurate showing the location of El Camino Real, just approximate.

The mission details and photos on the back side are wrong in many places.

When the book/map was officially introduced at the San Diego Presidio Museum, I was there as was Harry Crosby (who signed it as he was a contributing author). Ed Vernon (author Las Misiones Antiguas) contributed some of his mission photos to it as well... We hoped it would be super cool.

This was in 2008, and I think both Ed and Harry were very disappointed at the time, as was I, that more care wasn't used in the data on the missions.

[Edited on 4-27-2016 by David K]




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
BigBearRider
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1299
Registered: 4-30-2015
Location: Big Bear, Punta Chivato, and Cabo
Member Is Offline

Mood: :)

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 05:28 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
Obviously not Bing Crosby's son.


No, but Robbin Crosby's father:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbin_Crosby

View user's profile
4x4abc
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4290
Registered: 4-24-2009
Location: La Paz, BCS
Member Is Offline

Mood: happy - always

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 08:43 PM


that "map" is a total waste of money



Harald Pietschmann
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Gulliver
Senior Nomad
***




Posts: 651
Registered: 11-18-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 09:08 PM


For what it's worth, this is not history. It is today. Yesterday at the Pemex South of Mulege who should be gassing up his old Toyota in front of me but Felix Villavicencio. Still riding the back country West of Mulege in the Raymundo Canyon/Estanislau country but also bouncing into town for some gas and groceries.

Pictures I have of him on horse back with traditional gear look just like ones from generations ago. Just in color.

He says that the reason there are so many Arces is that the coyotes never learned to eat them.

One of the most useful techie items I have learned to bring down here is a printer and some photo paper. When visiting with families I can take pictures (digital of course) and then print and frame them before my next ride out there. Much appreciated by these working families.

I recommend it if you are going to be in an area for a while.
View user's profile
willardguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6451
Registered: 9-19-2009
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 09:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
Obviously not Bing Crosby's son.


No, but Robbin Crosby's father:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbin_Crosby



don't know about harry, but robbin had one hell of a ride!:yes:
View user's profile
fdt
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 4059
Registered: 9-7-2003
Location: Tijuana, Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Yeah, what if it all goes right

[*] posted on 4-26-2016 at 10:41 PM


On the interview, Harry seemed to think very highly about it. Oh well. Tanks all.



A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 18404
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Hot n spicy

[*] posted on 4-27-2016 at 06:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by fdt  
On the interview, Harry seemed to think very highly about it. Oh well. Tanks all.


The nomad reviewers special k and abc4 are just being grumpy,... It's a nice publication, enjoyable to read. Does it have "mistakes?" Who knows? Does it matter? Probably not.
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64858
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 4-27-2016 at 07:19 AM


The cover is cool. It is the 1757 Jesuit map, as my book also uses on the cover and the whole map plus some of the drawings are inside my book.



"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-29-2016 at 04:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
For what it's worth, this is not history. It is today. Yesterday at the Pemex South of Mulege who should be gassing up his old Toyota in front of me but Felix Villavicencio. Still riding the back country West of Mulege in the Raymundo Canyon/Estanislau country but also bouncing into town for some gas and groceries.

Pictures I have of him on horse back with traditional gear look just like ones from generations ago. Just in color.

He says that the reason there are so many Arces is that the coyotes never learned to eat them.

One of the most useful techie items I have learned to bring down here is a printer and some photo paper. When visiting with families I can take pictures (digital of course) and then print and frame them before my next ride out there. Much appreciated by these working families.

I recommend it if you are going to be in an area for a while.


Shari and Juan, take notice. Any coyotes in and around Asuncion? :lol:
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64858
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 4-29-2016 at 04:39 PM


Funny stuff! 'Bajo California', is a great movie about the Arce family tree!



"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Gulliver
Senior Nomad
***




Posts: 651
Registered: 11-18-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-29-2016 at 05:44 PM


Teddi, the mule lady, is working on a family tree of most of the old families in the hills. Even getting DNA samples to help sort things out.
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 64858
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 4-30-2016 at 10:01 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
Teddi, the mule lady, is working on a family tree of most of the old families in the hills. Even getting DNA samples to help sort things out.


Her handle on Baja Nomad is "Baja Bucko"...


If you hang out on the Camino Real, the mission road through California that connects the missions and visitas and presidios back to Spain, then you will cross paths with Baja Bucko... We enjoy her singing at the campfire at Mision Santa Maria de los Angeles, in May 2010:




Here is a cross table photo I took of Neal Johns and Baja Bucko, dinner at Ed's 'Baja's Best Restaurant and Bar', El Rosario, 2010...





Teddi (Baja Bucko) and I when I met her in April, 2001:





"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262