BajaBuckeye
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Recommendation for one rod to bring to Baja in April
In late April my wife and I are going to drive the length of the Baja Peninsula stopping to beach camp along the way. We are bringing kayaks and I'd
like to do some fishing in the Sea Of Cortez out of my kayak. Could someone recommend what lb. test line would work as a starting point and would a
medium action rod work OK? A recommendation of a few artificial baits would be appreciated as well. This will be my first attempt at salt water
fishing and my expectations aren't high I just want to give it a try. My wife doesn't fish by the way. Thanks in advance for your responses!!!
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If you can find an old copy of Gene Kira's book "Baja Catch" it would lead you in the right direction. It's dated and some of the spots may not be as
good as they were back then but the tackle probably works just as good. I'm surf fishing Rocky Point on the east side of the gulf next week with 12#
line and 1/2 to 1 oz spoons and lead head jigs with rubber tails. Maybe some bait also.
If you are in a boat of any kind with a fishing pole make sure you have a fishing license. Even if you aren't fishing!
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Any type of rubber lure will get destroyed in very short order by the swarms of triggerfish (chochi) that hang out in the Sea.
After living and fishing the SOC around the Loreto area for 16 years, absolutely the best lure for fishing nearshore and trolling along from a kayak
would be a Rebel Fastrak style jointed minnow in either gold/black or silver/black colors.
These are not made anymore, but a few can be had off Ebay listed as "vintage" lures.
I believe the "jointed" style lure is far and away the better choice over a solid model.
For a deeper diving lure, a Rebel Spoonbill jointed minnow is great in those same colors.
For casting, a Krocodile metal lure in 1 oz or 1.5 oz chrome prism tape color is a great lure. Let flutter down to the bottom and begin a slow
retrieve....too fast a retrieve will just spin the lure...rather than the enticing wobble.
Good luck
[Edited on 3-2-2017 by DaliDali]
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If I had to limit myself to only one rod to fish Baja hands down my goto would be a 7' 40# set up as it will handle nearly everything Baja might offer
up. However I fish from a boat and typically target the larger species. For inshore kayak fishing however I would recommend a 7' rod with sufficient
backbone for lifting such as a Calstar 270 matched with a 25-30# reel. Around the reefs you will want something that can turn their heads and get
them away from the rocks as quick as possible
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Learn your knots.
I can't break 30-lb test braid off of rocks without wrapping it around my paddle.
That said, my favorite combination is a Penn spinning reel in the 8000 size with a 40" retrieve per crank.
Load with 30-lb mono tied to 150 yards of 30-lb braid. Tie the braid to a 20-30' mono or fluoro leader in the 30-80-lb range.
With a 7', 30-80 lb spinning rod, it's perfect for jigging. Also good for casting from the beach.
Using only 3-oz and 4-oz diamond jigs, I have caught every fish worth catching in Baja...OK, I'm still waiting for my wahoo, but my buddy caught a
couple with this setup.
Look up Yo-Yo fishing technique.
A decent rod, a Penn Battle II reel, mono, braid and 2-dozen diamond jigs, will run you around $250-$300 on Amazon. Bring some shore-casting and
trolling stuff too.
Or you can buy a spool of line, hooks, sinkers, lures, gloves...
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any medium heavy X-fast and a handful of kroc's and you're good to go
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I fish both sides of Baja. My go to is a 7' mid. action with a 30 lb Spinner. I use a 3/4oz to 1.5 Krocodile or Castmaster. I will also troll them
with a bobber about 3-5 feet ahead of the lure. I will keep them off the bottom when you stop. You can use a floating rapala style too.
I will change the floro to lighter line depending on where and what I hope to catch.
I fish the plastic on the pac side, swim baits and grubs both work.
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Consider a medium backbone rod (15-40) with a fast tip. Probably 7 foot. You can cast it a mile, yet you still have enough stiffness to land YT into
the low 30s. The fast tip helps put at circular action into a knife/butterfly jig, if you work it right. Very enticing. That is for jigging from a
boat.
I am really liking my new Penn Fathom 25N with a rod like this. Even 2oz lures are very castable. 50-65# spectra with a small topshot. Fishing from a
boat, go with 40-50 topshot. If you are going surf casting, drop down to 15#. FG knots are pretty easy to tie in camp. I dont soak bait, surfcasting.
I keep moving and casting, even if I have a live sand crab or whatever.
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Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali | Any type of rubber lure will get destroyed in very short order by the swarms of triggerfish (chochi) that hang out in the Sea.
After living and fishing the SOC around the Loreto area for 16 years, absolutely the best lure for fishing nearshore and trolling along from a kayak
would be a Rebel Fastrak style jointed minnow in either gold/black or silver/black colors.
These are not made anymore, but a few can be had off Ebay listed as "vintage" lures.
I believe the "jointed" style lure is far and away the better choice over a solid model.
For a deeper diving lure, a Rebel Spoonbill jointed minnow is great in those same colors.
For casting, a Krocodile metal lure in 1 oz or 1.5 oz chrome prism tape color is a great lure. Let flutter down to the bottom and begin a slow
retrieve....too fast a retrieve will just spin the lure...rather than the enticing wobble.
Good luck
[Edited on 3-2-2017 by DaliDali] |
What size Rebel Fastrak do you recommend?
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BBR.......there are only two sizes...4 1/2" and 5 1/2".
Not made anymore and tough to impossible to find.
I have now been forced to go to a similar Rebel without the "fastrac" lip feature.
http://www.rebellures.com/rebel-jointed-minnow-fishing-lure
[Edited on 3-2-2017 by DaliDali]
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SoulPatch...
I too have bags and bags of the rubbery things and enough leadheads to sink a boat.
But for the life of me, I cannot keep the cochis off them.
But they work great in the Pac side for all kinds of fish that hang out nearshore. So I keep them.
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Pro and con for taking a lighter weight rod
PRO
1 They are easy to pack around, and fun to use
2 You will have more fun landing smaller fish
3 You will have some great 'One that got away' stories!
CON
1 You will have some great 'One that got away' stories!
Hook's suggestions sound right on to me!
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30# setup is fished fish 12# drag tops. 10,20 and 30# floro leaders if needed. the faster the better.
no rubber as the toothy critter will make swiss cheese out of it.
crocs, megabaits, lucky joe and a few bait hooks.
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Rod = Seeker black steel 809
Reel = Pro Gear V30-2
Load it with hollow spectra (White)
Leader = 10' of your favorite florocarbon
3/4 - 2 oz. leadheads...plain
6" Big Hammer swimbaits in clear/red flake, calico hunter, sardine and Xmas tree.
Pro Cure scent for your swimbaits
Learn how to tie a knot or two:
http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfishing.php#ScrollPoint
Fish on structure and where water is moving (Boiler rocks, reefs, wrecks, jetties, high spots)
Fish incoming tides when possible
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thats some expensive taco bass and triggers you'll be catching!
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Quote: Originally posted by BajaBuckeye | In late April my wife and I are going to drive the length of the Baja Peninsula stopping to beach camp along the way. We are bringing kayaks and I'd
like to do some fishing in the Sea Of Cortez out of my kayak. Could someone recommend what lb. test line would work as a starting point and would a
medium action rod work OK? A recommendation of a few artificial baits would be appreciated as well. This will be my first attempt at salt water
fishing and my expectations aren't high I just want to give it a try. My wife doesn't fish by the way. Thanks in advance for your responses!!!
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First time? Dont sunk a lot of $$ until you know you like it
Get a used rod/reel, and cheap lures. Jigging for bottom fish is less about the lure and more about the technique.
For kayak fishing for bottom fish consider just jigging with a hand line.
If you catch a little fish, put him on weighted line with a hook, and let the live bait work its magic far superior to a lure.
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Quote: Originally posted by BajaBuckeye | In late April my wife and I are going to drive the length of the Baja Peninsula stopping to beach camp along the way. We are bringing kayaks and I'd
like to do some fishing in the Sea Of Cortez out of my kayak. Could someone recommend what lb. test line would work as a starting point and would a
medium action rod work OK? A recommendation of a few artificial baits would be appreciated as well. This will be my first attempt at salt water
fishing and my expectations aren't high I just want to give it a try. My wife doesn't fish by the way. Thanks in advance for your responses!!!
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First time? Dont sunk a lot of $$ until you know you like it
Get a used rod/reel, and cheap lures. Jigging for bottom fish is less about the lure and more about the technique.
For kayak fishing for bottom fish consider just jigging with a hand line.
If you catch a little fish, put him on weighted line with a hook, and let the live bait work its magic far superior to a lure.
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