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| Fury Acquires Cedros Mining Concession 
 
 http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2005/09/c...
 
 TSX Trading Symbol: FUR
 
 VANCOUVER, Feb. 9 /CNW/ - Fury Explorations Ltd. (the "Company") is
 pleased to announce the acquisition of a 28,430 ha mining concession on Cedros
 Island, Baja California State, Mexico. Cedros Island is approximately 800 km
 south of the US border and 120 km west of the town of Guerrero Negro on the
 Pacific shore of the Baja peninsula.
 
 The island is underlain by a series of Jurassic sediments and volcanics
 intruded by several felsic to mafic intrusions. In two traverses completed by
 Fury geologists, areas of strong oxidation and complex structure combined with
 complex stratifgraphy were noted.
 
 The mining concession was acquired by staking and covers at least two
 historic gold and/or copper mining areas. The first area called the Wendlandt
 Mine, was sporadically mined for gold during the late 1890's and early 1900's
 by an American company, and yielded 130,000 tonnes of material at an
 unspecified grade. During the 1980's, the Consejo Recursos Minerales (Mexican
 govt. geology agency), reviewed and mapped the Mine area and located a total
 of 13 openings from shallow excavations to shafts and adits. A total of
 47 samples were taken from the adits and surface exposures and results of
 25 of the samples returned values greater than 1.0 g/t Au with values up to
 117.2 g/t Au and 852.1 g/t Ag. Copper values ranged up to 1.23%.
 
 The mineralization in the Wendlandt Mine area occurs as epithermal
 disseminations of pyrite and arsenopyrite with subsidiary silver sulphides,
 silver and gold tellurides, and chalcopyrite in structurally controlled quartz
 veinlets which are hosted by silicified rhyolite porphyry dykes, a rhyolite
 porphyry plug, quartz diorite dykes and a silicified rhyolite breccia. Fury
 geologists noted that an obvious surface oxidized area with a diameter of
 approximately 300m surrounds the area of the old mines.
 
 Additional mineralization noted in old literature includes reported gold
 production from the central part of the island at the Mascara Hierro Mine. The
 area was not inspected by Fury personnel and no production statistics
 available.
 
 The Company plans to map and sample the Wendlandt Mine area followed by a
 drilling program. The remainder of the island will be mapped and prospected
 guided by a study of satellite imagery. It is anticipated that the work
 program will commence within the next month.
 
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 The mineralization in the Wendlandt Mine area occurs as epithermal
 disseminations of pyrite and arsenopyrite with subsidiary silver sulphides,
 silver and gold tellurides, and chalcopyrite in structurally controlled quartz
 veinlets which are hosted by silicified rhyolite porphyry dykes, a rhyolite
 porphyry plug, quartz diorite dykes and a silicified rhyolite breccia. Fury
 geologists noted that an obvious surface oxidized area with a diameter of
 approximately 300m surrounds the area of the old mines.
 
 
 
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 Could you post this in English next time?
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 This concession is illegal. Amazing how the government ignores the constitution,  especially when there is a profit to be made.
   
 
 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Dave This concession is illegal. Amazing how the government ignores the constitution,  especially when there is a profit to be made.
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 There are certain areas of the economy which are constitutionally restricted from foreign participation. Mining is one of them.
 
 
 
 
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 So no foreign company can operate a mine in Mexico (create jobs, pay taxes, share gold revenues)? They really want to keep their people poor down
there, huh?
 
 If there was a Mexican mining company that was able to, I am sure it would have been done. There must be a way to extract the wealth with foreign
help, rather than just let it remain untapped?
 
 Before the new constitution, lot's of foreign mine companies operated in Mexico... El Boleo of France comes to mind. Las Flores, south of Bahia de
L.A. didn't close because the gold and silver ran out, the 1911 revolution chased out the foreignors.
 
 
 
 
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 Article 27 of the Constitution
 
 The legal framework for mining is set forth in Article 27 of the Constitution, which grants the ownership of essentially all minerals to the Mexican
nation. The right to exploit those minerals, except for radioactive minerals, which are reserved for the State, is given to private parties through
concessions issued by the federal executive branch, as may be established by law. (Article 73, Section X of the Constitution gives the federal
Congress the right to enact laws on mining, confirming the federal nature of this activity).  Such concessions may be issued to Mexican
individuals, to companies incorporated under Mexican law, and to foreign individuals (subject to comments in Section 3.8. following), Provided, in the
latter case, that they agree to what is known in Latin America as the Calvo Clause,8 under which a foreigner agrees to consider himself 9 as a Mexican
and not to invoke the protection of his government regarding any rights that he holds in Mexico, under penalty, if he breaches such
agreement, to forfeit said rights in benefit of the Mexican nation.
 
 
 
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 And check this out:
 Watch out -- insidious little f___s
 
 ETC Group
 News Release
 7 February 2005
 www.etcgroup.org
 
 Canadian Government to Unleash Terminator Bombshell at UN Meeting: All-out
 push for commercialisation of Sterile Seed Technology
 
 A confidential document leaked today to ETC Group reveals that the Canadian
 government, at a United Nations meeting in Bangkok (Feb 7-11), will attempt
 to overturn an international moratorium on genetic seed sterilisation
 technology (known universally as Terminator). Even worse, the Canadian
 government has instructed its negotiators to "block consensus" on any other
 option.
 
 "Canada is about to launch a devastating kick in the stomach to the world's
 most vulnerable farmers - the 1.4 billion people who depend on farm saved
 seed," said ETC Group Executive Director Pat Mooney speaking from Ottawa.
 "The Canadian government is doing the dirty work for the multinational gene
 giants and the US government. Even Monsanto wasn't prepared to be this
 upfront and nasty. Canada is betraying Farmers' Rights and food sovereignty
 everywhere."
 
 Terminator technology was first developed by the US government and the seed
 industry to prevent farmers from re-planting saved seed and is considered
 the most controversial and immoral agricultural application of genetic
 engineering so far. When first made public in 1998, "suicide seeds"
 triggered an avalanche of public opposition, forcing Monsanto to abandon the
 technology and prompting the UN Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) to
 impose a de facto moratorium on its further development. According to the
 leaked instructions to Canadian negotiators at SBSTTA 10 (a scientific
 advisory body to the CBD), Canada will insist on Wednesday (9 Feb.) that
 governments accept the field testing and commercialization of Terminator
 varieties (referred to as GURTS -- Genetic Use Restriction Technologies).
 Canada will also attack an official UN report, prepared by an international
 expert group, which is critical of the potential impacts of Terminator seeds
 on small farmers and Indigenous Peoples. In stark contrast to Canada's
 position, the expert report recommends that governments seek prohibitions on
 the technology.
 
 In Bangkok, civil society and Indigenous Peoples are calling on the Canadian
 government to abandon its endorsement of Terminator and to join with other
 governments to prohibit the technology once and for all. Many African and
 Asian governments have called for Terminator to be banned and the European
 Union has also been supportive of the existing moratorium.
 
 "It is outrageous that Canada is backing an anti-farmer technology and
 shameful that it will 'block consensus' on any other outcome. Governments
 from around the world must not accept this bullying tactic," says ETC
 Group's Hope Shand from the negotiations in Bangkok. "If Canada blocks
 decision-making on this issue, the moratorium will be in jeopardy and
 terminator seeds will be commercialized ending up in the fields of small
 farmers."
 
 The full leaked text of the Canadian government's instructions to its
 negotiators on Terminator/GURTS follows.
 
 Hope Shand and Jim Thomas of ETC Group can be contacted at SBSTTA
 negotiations in Bangkok on cell phone +44 (0) 7752 106806 or by email
 jim@etcgroup.org or hope@etcgroup.org
 Pat Mooney (in Ottawa) +1 (613) 241-2267 etc@etcgroup.org
 Kathy Jo Wetter (USA) +1 (919) 960-5223 email kjo@etcgroup.org
 The Head of the Canadian Delegation in Bangkok is Robert McLean, Environment
 Canada
 email Robert.Mclean@ec.gc.ca tel +1 (819) 997-1303
 
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 "Advice on the report of the Ad Hoc Technical Expert Group on Genetic Use
 Restriction Technologies (GURTS);
 
 Canada has major reservations regarding the recommendations in the AHTEG
 report. Canada notes that the experts were unable to reach consensus and
 that while this is recognized in para. 15 of the report, this should have
 been made clear in the recommendation section of the report. Unfortunately,
 the report leaves the impression that consensus was achieved on all of the
 recommendations when this was clearly not case and in particular in terms of
 recommendation (b) which reads as follows, "In view of the current lack of
 data, recommends that Parties and other Governments consider the development
 of regulatory frameworks not to approve GURTs for field-testing and
 commercial use."
 
 Canada will suggest that the document clearly indicate in the Annex that
 there is no consensus on for the recommendations. Alternatively, the AHTEG
 report can be referred to as the "Chairs' report". Canada also believes that
 the AHTEG report contains scientific inaccuracies and a lack of balance in
 terms of reflecting both potential positive and negative impacts of this
 technology, and these issues should be addressed before the report is
 further distributed. We believe that it would be beneficial for Parties and
 other governments to submit comments to the Executive Secretary/CHM to
 represent national views to improve the accuracy of the document, and that
 these be made available to both the 8j working group and COP.
 
 Additionally, Canada will propose that SBSTTA adopt a recommendation for
 decision at COP8 based on the revised wording of recommendation "b" below
 and will propose this recommendation be incorporated for consideration at
 the 8j meeting:
 
 NEW WORDING for recommendation b) of AHTEG report
 (b) In view of the current lack of data, recommend that Parties and other
 Governments consider the development of domestic regulatory frameworks TO
 ALLOW FOR THE EVALUATION OF NOVEL VARIETIES, INCLUDING THOSE WITH GURTS, FOR
 FIELD TESTING AND COMMERCIAL USE BASED ON APPROPRIATE SCIENCE-BASED
 ENVIRONMENTAL RISK/SAFETY ASSESSMENTS.
 
 In Canada's opinion the revised wording we are suggesting, strengthens the
 recommendation and provides for a strong scientific assessment of risk.
 
 If we are unsuccessful in obtaining these additions (indication that
 recommendations in the AHTEG report were not based on consensus OR agreement
 to have national views submitted) AND changes to recommendation "B" --or any
 other outcome which clearly addresses our concern over a defacto moratorium
 on GURTS-- Canada is prepared to block consensus on this issue."
 
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 It sounds bad but a couple things, to play devils advocate wilderone:  Its probably better if the seeds are one generational since they've been
genetically modified anyway, it'll keep the mutation risks down, than if the farmers kept using the GMS.  Also, if I'm not mistaken, most farming is
done with F1 Hybrid seeds, which if I recall from Genetics 101, don't produce reliable seed anyway.
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 GM seed is a worldwide issue.  In Africa and Mexico, it is absolutely vital that the hundreds of varieties of corn that do well in regional
micro-climates continue to do so in an unadulterated.  And there remains the ultimate unknown about GM seed.  But the consensus is that we shouldn't
try to push mother nature around.
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