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 I just wanted to mention since i couldn?t find any english sources for this story, but theres a current national war betwen most major drug cartels.
This has never happened before, because until now there where fights betwen one or two cartels, but never an all out war of everybody against
everybody. They are virtually killing themselves off little by little all over Mexico, and who knows whos going to end up standing at the end, theres
5 major cartels in this war:
 
 1.-Tijuana ( Arellano Felix)
 2.-Juarez (Carrilo Fuentes)
 3.-Golfo (Osiel Card##as)
 4.-Sinaloa ( Mayo Zambada)
 5.-Guadalajara (Chapo Guzman)
 
 In the past months hundreds of drug dealers and enforcers have died from all sides, including some very famous traffickers and even their families and
lawyers.
 
 If you see a spike on the amount of violence lately, its because of this war, and to me at least its good since they are killing each other off.
 
 
 
 
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| Baja Bernie 
 
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| Jesse 
 
 Does it not seem to you that the circle of deaths continue to enlarge and take in more and more innocents as it expands?
 
 
 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Baja Bernie Does it not seem to you that the circle of deaths continue to enlarge and take in more and more innocents as it expands?
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 To be honest Bernie, no. Very rarely do people not involved in that business get caught in the crossfire, it does happen, but its rare, gunmen are
usually very precise and there rules in the mob that civilizans and family is off limits, its very common here in Tijuana for killers to kill a drug
trafficker in his car with his family on board and leave them unharmed.
 
 More serious in my view than the actual violence, its the growing influence of drug traffickers in the Mexican goverment at all levels, i think they
are pushing it and eventually the Mexican goverment will find itself having no other choice, but to authorize U.S. law enforcement agents to work in
Mexican territory, as well as extraditing top cartel leaders.
 
 
 
 
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| Jesse 
 
 Thanks for your insight.
 
 Also really liked that other article we talked about.
 
 
 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Me No Jesse, take this crap/bad news/ no news to the off topic where it belongs.  You are making yourself into the new Nosey.  You have posted enough to
know it doesn't belong here, yet insist on posting it.  Give it up!
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 Jesse I was vary interested in your article. I think the only ones that would object would be the drudges.
 
 probably should be in the news section but it is defiantly not off topic.
   
 
 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Me No Jesse, take this crap/bad news/ no news to the off topic where it belongs.  You are making yourself into the new Nosey.  You have posted enough to
know it doesn't belong here, yet insist on posting it.  Give it up!
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 Jesse I was vary interested in your article. I think the only ones that would object would be the drudges.
 
 probably should be in the news section but it is defiantly not off topic.
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 I find it very interesting as well, i don't believe we have witnessed a war like this since the early days of the Italian mafia, and never have so
many multibillion dollar criminal organizations been involved in such a re organization.
 
 I hope both the American and Mexican goverment take advantage of this situation.
 
 
 
 
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 http://www.el-universal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_n...
 
 http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/world/10944474.htm
 
 
 
 
 
 
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