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JoeJustJoe
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Nice try DaliDali, as usual, but nobody called anybody a liar, John, and myself, talked about the industry standard in real estate development, not
anybody personal standards. ( I purposely did this so no one could claim, not me....I only hire Americans or lawful immigrants)
Paranewbi, pretty much said in the 70's, construction work was dominated by Mexicans, and I'm pretty sure he meant undocumented workers.
So don't try to deny the obvious DaliDali about Real Estate, and construction dominated by Hispanic workers. Thank God, there are other industries
someone could work at with a low unemployment rate in the US.
DaliDali wrote: "come one, come all immigrant workers, the hungry, tired, wanting a better life, a slice of America,"
That kinda sounds like what's written on the statue of liberty, and what made America, a great country and great melting pot. Do you have a problem
with it DaliDali?
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." ( great words, although back then European
immigrants were attacked too by American nativists in America. )
DaliDali, do you have any Alex Jones, "Infowars" articles/links to post? If I had a choice between "CIS" and "Inforwars," I would choose CIS.
[Edited on 12-6-2018 by JoeJustJoe]
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DaliDali wrote: "come one, come all immigrant workers, the hungry, tired, wanting a better life, a slice of America,"
That kinda sounds like what's written on the statue of liberty, and what made America, a great country and great melting pot. Do you have a problem
with it DaliDali?
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." ( great words, although back then European
immigrants were attacked too by American nativists in America. )
DaliDali, do you have any Alex Jones, "Infowars" articles/links to post? If I had a choice between "CIS" and "Inforwars," I would choose CIS.
[Edited on 12-6-2018 by JoeJustJoe] |
It's not in the 1800's anymore Joe, when a young America was in a big growth spurt that needed immigrants to spread and populate the hinterlands.
And those immigrants had to go thru the established POE's and the requirements to be granted entry didn't they?
These early immigrants did not just jump ship off New York and hit the countryside running did they Joe?
The USA has allowed in 47 million immigrants as of 2015, or 19% of immigrants worldwide.....
So the tired and poor message still remains....just do it legally.
In there here and now, there are quotas on how many foreign workers are allowed to immigrate for work activities, and for obvious, reasons since some
Arabs decided to blow things up.
Any others who ignore this and go on to jump the fence are doing so contrary to the law of the land. Precisely what an anarchist
wants......disobiedience to established rules and laws.
I don't even know who Alex Jones is Joe...yet you continue to place me in his realm of influence.....what's up with that?
Stay out of the weeds Joe.....you'll be ok.
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American Agribusiness would shut down without undocumented workers.
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It's not very often I hear of ICE picking up undocumented aliens. I can only remember two cases this year. One was when ICE was chasing a man and wife
and they died when their car crashed. Turns out the man wasn't the guy they were after. The man and wife were illegal but ICE was after another man.
Another was a student at Bakersfield College. His friends and the college got him a lawyer and he's back in school pending a review by the courts. I'm
sure there are others but it's just not something happening on a daily basis, around here anyway. Maybe ICE picks people up and it doesn't get
reported to the media.
Our house cleaners and our gardener are Hispanics but I don't know if they are legal or not, never asked them. I do know they go to Mexico on a
regular basis to visit family so I assume they are legal.
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Bullchit. I live in the middle of agriculture and it is alive and well without undocumented workers. I personally know a few plant managers and they
are very thorough in their background checks on immigration status.
Making America Great Again
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Take the jobs Americans won't do.
Now just why the hell not?
Put down the bong and turnoff the PacMan game and get your hiney out the door and come back with your neck sunburned and dirt under your nails or go
live with your other doper pals.
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc |
But there are narrow exceptions.
Pregnant women and nursing mothers could be eligible for certain benefits under the Women-Infants-Children (WIC) program, which provides food and
nutrition vouchers to low-income families, if they have a child that was born in the U.S. |
...and refugee claimants aka asylum seekers?
Not sure about the US but in Canada anybody who has crossed the border and claimed - either at the border or at the inland office - that he was
fleeing from some danger, is given a "kind of" status of refugee claimant. He is illegal, but "kind of" temporary documented - by the govt. Usual
pretext is a persecution for reasons of race, nationality, sex (or sexual preference), religion, political affiliation, or by organized crime groups.
Then he has to prove his case before the refugee board, this takes several months, meanwhile he is getting welfare and Medicare. Basically, they need
to believe his story, often without documents since somebody fleeing from real danger can't always gather all the documentary evidence.
If he loses, he is "asked" to leave the country, and if he refuses to leave - he is deported, if they can find him. Total cost to taxpayers is about
USD 40K per head. If he wins and granted residency, it's still 40K. The numbers have been released recently, and it kind of dawned on our govt
idiots. Many of those jumping the Tijuana fence will end up in Canada, btw.
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This is an older book, read it for cultural anthropology decades ago, however, it is a good read looking into the lives of agricultural workers who
migrate back and forth to work in the fields. Believe it or not, many Mexicans who come here to work don't want to actually live here. They find it
a terrible place to raise their families.
https://www.amazon.com/Shadowed-Lives-Undocumented-Immigrant...
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Of the many Mexican families that don't want to live here is it because of the environment as their kids grow up. Like gangs, language, drugs etc. I
think it would be difficult for the older people if the kids and later the grandkids speak mostly English and not so much Spanish.
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Of the many Mexican families that don't want to live here is it because of the environment as their kids grow up. Like gangs, language, drugs etc. I
think it would be difficult for the older people if the kids and later the grandkids speak mostly English and not so much Spanish.
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Absolutely! They view our culture as un-wholesome, not good for family and children. One thing I love about Mexico is the attachment to their
cultural music, not the international pop music you hear everywhere else.
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I would disagree with these two posters.
First off Mexican families are as varied as American families, and one size doesn't fit all.
Some immigrants I talk to and the key word is 'some" find the US boring, especially the suburbs if they are use to city living with lot of
restaurants bars, and lots of things do to in the city. In the suburbs, many houses look alike and there is either a McDonald's or Jack-in-Box, on
every corner block.
They don't like working 50 hours a week, but they love the money, and dream of making lots of money and eventually moving back home with a nest egg.
I don't think older Mexicans have problems with the kids speaking English, and if they kids are around the older Spanish speaking family members,
that's good, because they will probably pick up the language very easily.
Usually the the 3rd generation, the American assimilation, of Mexicans is complete, they speak mostly English, watch football, and listen to American
music, and that's the way it has always been, although one of the favorite criticisms of any foreigner is, " they don't assimilate?'
However, things may change, because what I notice in almost pure Hispanic or Asian neighborhoods In LA is the people in those neighborhoods continue
to hold onto their culture and language longer than in more mixed neighborhoods, and even the young people prefer to speak in their native languages
Oh well, there is nothing in the US Constitution, that says you have to speak English.
| Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama | | Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Of the many Mexican families that don't want to live here is it because of the environment as their kids grow up. Like gangs, language, drugs etc. I
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Absolutely! They view our culture as un-wholesome, not good for family and children. One thing I love about Mexico is the attachment to their
cultural music, not the international pop music you hear everywhere else.
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Societal Differences
Among the many reasons why those from Mexico might find living in U.S. cities problematic are the regulations limiting the parking of vehicles
(especially dead ones) in front yards.
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