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BajaUtah
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So all of these streaming TV devices are just methods for playing apps. AppleTV, Roku, Firestick and smart TVs do the same thing. They open apps to
connect to streaming services. No one device prevents you from opening apps or gives you regional lock outs, that's in the app itself. The real
difference is what apps are available for each device.
I have an AppleTV v1 at home in the US and I can't add any apps beyond what comes with the device. I've heard the newer versions can add external apps
but have no experience. I've never tried the AppleTV in Baja.
I have used a Roku in the US and in Baja and I just don't like the interface and you have to use Roku approved apps so there are limitations. The Roku
had no problem connecting to my slow and glitchy internet in La Ribera. I tried to use Netflix via the Roku and got a regional lock out.
Firestick is my choice in the US and Baja. The 4k stick with voice remote is pretty cool. The real advantage is you can load it with Kodi - a third
party app loader that lets you add all kinds of apps that do not have to be approved by Amazon.
I haven't used smart TVs in Baja but I do have an old blu ray player that has a few apps on it that I've used. It's actually my go to for Netflix
because its so old and out of date that I don't get regional restrictions on Netflix. Go figure.
If you are going to go Streaming TV in Baja I'd suggest a Firestick 4k with the Cabo Internet TV app. I've used it on a few trips and it's been good
for me to watch a few sportsball games and news shows.
Look at https://cabointernetv-com.3dcartstores.com/
The setup on firestick took me a few tries but once loaded it's a ton of TV (look at the channel list) for cheap.
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Quote: Originally posted by BajaUtah  | So all of these streaming TV devices are just methods for playing apps. AppleTV, Roku, Firestick and smart TVs do the same thing. They open apps to
connect to streaming services. No one device prevents you from opening apps or gives you regional lock outs, that's in the app itself. The real
difference is what apps are available for each device.
I have an AppleTV v1 at home in the US and I can't add any apps beyond what comes with the device. I've heard the newer versions can add external apps
but have no experience. I've never tried the AppleTV in Baja.
I have used a Roku in the US and in Baja and I just don't like the interface and you have to use Roku approved apps so there are limitations. The Roku
had no problem connecting to my slow and glitchy internet in La Ribera. I tried to use Netflix via the Roku and got a regional lock out.
Firestick is my choice in the US and Baja. The 4k stick with voice remote is pretty cool. The real advantage is you can load it with Kodi - a third
party app loader that lets you add all kinds of apps that do not have to be approved by Amazon.
I haven't used smart TVs in Baja but I do have an old blu ray player that has a few apps on it that I've used. It's actually my go to for Netflix
because its so old and out of date that I don't get regional restrictions on Netflix. Go figure.
If you are going to go Streaming TV in Baja I'd suggest a Firestick 4k with the Cabo Internet TV app. I've used it on a few trips and it's been good
for me to watch a few sportsball games and news shows.
Look at https://cabointernetv-com.3dcartstores.com/
The setup on firestick took me a few tries but once loaded it's a ton of TV (look at the channel list) for cheap. |
Troypoint.com has all the solutions for the firestick
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Udo
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Try torguard. Works for me.
| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | It is blocked. I have at@t and can often watch it on my phone using cellular in MX (only caught it once), but can't over Wi-Fi. And can't watch it
on my laptop.
It detects that you are using a VPN, at least my go to VPN - ExpressVPN.
I'm thinking there has to be a VPN that will work. Just haven't found it yet.
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Don Pisto
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anyone just use netflix mexico?
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BajaParrothead
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by BajaParrothead |
Thanks for the info. My LB house will be finished in December and I'm trying to figure out what my TV options are. Currently DTV in NorCal, but
apparently it doesn't go that far south. Not willing to go to Dish; they seem to have too any contract disputes with the networks.
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Before my next trip in November I'm going to research it deeper and will report back unless someone else gives us the info before then. I'm pretty
sure there is a way to get it working down there.
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JZ, were you able to make any progress on the VPN with YouTubeTV during this last trip?
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JZ
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Yes, I was able to get YTTV working in both Ireland and Mexico last month. I used two VPNs. ExpressVPN and Nord VPN.
The VPNs give you a bunch of cities to choose from to connect to a proxy server (e.g. where you appear to be in the world, it basically gives you an
IP address of a city where the proxy server is).
For many of the locations you pick, YTTV will pop up a message saying it has detected the VPN/Proxy, and locks you out. You just have to keep trying
until you find a city in the US that works. My experience was that I was able to find a good one much faster with Nord.
This gives you access to 95% of the channels on YTTV. If you want to use local channels (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC), YTTV does a 2nd level of checking. It
asks for permission to use your browser to check your location. Your browser keeps something that is called a Geolocation. It is different from your
IP address.
ExpressVPN has a browser plug-in for Firefox and Chrome. This spoofs your Geolocation. Before I tried YTTV's 2nd level of location detection, I
found a website that would check your location. It showed me being in NY when I was in Mexico.
I needed the local channels, as the CFB game I wanted to watch was on ABC. Luckily ExpressVPN was giving me an unblocked city pretty easily that day.
Nord has a similar add on, but I tested it once and it didn't seem to spoof my browser's Geolocation properly. I need to fiddle with it more.
In summary, both Nord and ExpressVPN will work. You just need to play with them a bit. Nord seems to need much less trial and error, and is cheaper.
[Edited on 12-6-2019 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Yes, I was able to get YTTV working in both Ireland and Mexico last month. I used two VPNs. ExpressVPN and Nord VPN. |
Omg! Who watches TV on vacation? I can see switching on the tube in a hotel room, to see what is on locally, but to waste vacation time with vpns
and streaming services? Crikey!
Woke!
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Omg! Who watches TV on vacation? I can see switching on the tube in a hotel room, to see what is on locally, but to waste vacation time with vpns
and streaming services? Crikey!
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I grew up 10-15mins from Ohio Stadium. tOSU Buckeyes have the number 1 football team in the nation heading into the CFB playoff.
They just played two top 15 teams back to back. I wasn't missing those two games for the world.
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BajaParrothead
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Yes, I was able to get YTTV working in both Ireland and Mexico last month. I used two VPNs. ExpressVPN and Nord VPN.
The VPNs give you a bunch of cities to choose from to connect to a proxy server (e.g. where you appear to be in the world, it basically gives you an
IP address of a city where the proxy server is).
For many of them locations you pick, YTTV will pop up a message saying it has detected the VPN/Proxy, and locks you out. You just have to keep trying
until you find a city in the US that works. My experience was that I was able to find a good one much faster with Nord.
This gives you access to 95% of the channels on YTTV. If you want to use local channels (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC), YTTV does a 2nd level of checking. It
asks for permission to use your browser to check your location. Your browser keeps something that is called a Geolocation. It is different from your
IP address.
ExpressVPN has a browser plug in for Firefox and Chrome. This spoofs your Geolocation. Before I tried YTTV's 2nd level of location checking, I found
a website that would test your location. It showed me being in NY when I was in Mexico.
I needed the local channels, as the CFB game I wanted to watch was on ABC. Luckily ExpressVPN was giving me an unblocked city pretty easily that day.
Nord has a similar add on, but I tested it once and it didn't seem to spoof my browser Geolocation properly. I need to fiddle with it more.
In summary, both Nord and ExpressVPN will work. You just need to play with them a bit. Nord seems to need much less trial and error, and is cheaper.
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Thanks for the report, this will help!
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