For me I like that set up Ken . At 12 years old I hated sleeping in tents. That was boy scouts remember pole line trip I had removed rear seat . In
my Nissan double cab front seats folded flat. made comfortable bed for two looking forward to Baja Run . To check out your amazing jeep Ken I have
many new routes to take you on.
The only issue I see with the Upper Decker is the same as with any regular camper shell.
And, if you're going to remove the truck top tent and store it, how much time are you really saving versus the 15 minutes to set up your regular tent?
How much space does that take up to store, versus a tent and mattresses? Also, how heavy is that truck tent when putting it back on? I see it's
listed as weighing 154 pounds? And, do you also have to buy a rack for your truck to mount it?
I'm looking forward to a report on how this new configuration works out. Good luck!
John
[Edited on 9-17-2020 by John Harper]
After camping with four wheelers with roof top tents, I always asked myself why I put up with so much unnecessary work. I don't like my gear always
covered in dust from the trail. Rain would be much more bothersome. Air mattresses lose inflation in the middle of the night - no matter how new
they are. With all of the work that I do, I feel as if I deserve something better.
Air mattresses lose inflation in the middle of the night - no matter how new they are.
Not true. My Klymit pad is at least 5 years old, used mostly on backpacking trips and some car camping, at least 150 days over 5 years. Never has
leaked. And it was only about $90.
My suggestion for car camping is a good thick Thermarest style pad, more of a hybrid (self inflating) than an true inflatable. Mucho mas mejor.
I'm a high school teacher. You're not the only one who has a tough job.
The only issue I see with the Upper Decker is the same as with any regular camper shell.
And, if you're going to remove the truck top tent and store it, how much time are you really saving versus the 15 minutes to set up your regular tent?
How much space does that take up to store, versus a tent and mattresses? Also, how heavy is that truck tent when putting it back on? I see it's
listed as weighing 154 pounds? And, do you also have to buy a rack for your truck to mount it?
I'm looking forward to a report on how this new configuration works out. Good luck!
John
[Edited on 9-17-2020 by John Harper]
After camping with four wheelers with roof top tents, I always asked myself why I put up with so much unnecessary work. I don't like my gear always
covered in dust from the trail. Rain would be much more bothersome. Air mattresses lose inflation in the middle of the night - no matter how new
they are. With all of the work that I do, I feel as if I deserve something better.
Toys are fun. Buy whatever floats your boat!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Ken,
Why do you post a flash plug in?
Flash is over and done, can’t even see what you posted on an iPad.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Buy a couple nice cots, a couple nice Thermarest mattresses too.
Done, done, and done. Maybe $800 tops for all and it stores in the garage quite easily.
That's far less than the $3000+ truck tent, or the $10,000+ trailer. Save your money for something more practical. You can't possibly camp out more
often than I do.
You can also sleep "under the stars" and ditch the tent at times with a modular/flexible system (neither of the other systems can do that). Try it
some time, you'll probably love it. Nothing but the expanse of the universe above you. It's awesome.
To answer the question - "Why does your truck need 38" tires?"
Before:
After (same rock/different angle):
It looks like there is plenty of space and smooth ground to drive around that rock. I have found that my truck experiences less wear/tear when I
drive around the rock instead of over the rock
P.s. both times your truck got stuck on top of the rock? Wassup with that?
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
To answer the question - "Why does your truck need 38" tires?"
It looks like there is plenty of space and smooth ground to drive around that rock. I have found that my truck experiences less wear/tear when I
drive around the rock instead of over the rock
P.s. both times your truck got stuck on top of the rock? Wassup with that?
Three angles that come up frequently in terms of performance are;
- approach
- departure
- breakover angle
The longer the wheelbase, the greater the breakover angle. Down-spacing of ones suspension, and supplanting OEM 33" for aftermarket 38" (soon 39.5")
tires lessen one's breakover angle making passage over said rocks an afterthought.
For car camping with tent, Get a queen size air bed. They come with 12v air pump to inflate or deflate.
For sleeping under the stars, get one of the good thermarest pads (more like a matteess than a pad)
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
For car camping with tent, Get a queen size air bed. They come with 12v air pump to inflate or deflate.
For sleeping under the stars, get one of the good thermarest pads (more like a matteess than a pad)
He says "all air mattresses leak at night" no matter how old. That's why I suggested a plush Thermarest. It sounds like he can afford it.
And, sleeping off the ground is much easier if you can do it. Backpacking, of course you're gonna be on the ground. But car camping? No reason.
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