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Mexican President Declines to Declare Biden the Victor
Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador remains one of the few international leaders not to recognize Joe Biden's election win, saying it hasn't been "legally"
established.
[Edited on 11-12-2020 by TMW]
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Technically I think he is right. It's not official until the electoral college votes which is Dec. 14th.
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i was unaware it was up to him.
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The election is decided after review of votes by States until Dec 8th, a vote by electoral college to elect the president is Dec 14th to be approved.
CNN, MSNBC FaceBook Twitter have nothing to do with an election etc
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David, you forgot Arizona as well. And Georgia today as well. And BTW yes the president is declared by a vote of the electorial college, and who
decides those votes? that would be the states election boards, counting the votes of the people of that state.
as a practical matter - this is an Uber Mega landslide victory i base that on your orange overlords own definition: when he won the EC with 306 EC
voTes, and LOST the popular vote by 3 million - he declared it a landslide win!
Guess what, Biden gets 306, plus beats him in the popular vote by 5 million. that my election historical friends is a true landslide. The biggest
victory in a presidential election since Rosevelt.
I know many of you here are holding out for the faithless voter coup! because its really not about fair elections to many of you - right?
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So, that is why the Democrats lost seats in congress and haven't gained the majority in the Senate (yet, lol).
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Quote: Originally posted by caj13  |
Guess what, Biden gets 306, plus beats him in the popular vote by 5 million. that my election historical friends is a true landslide. The biggest
victory in a presidential election since Rosevelt.
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No matter who is declared the winner it is hardly a landslide.
Claiming that Biden won by the largest margin since Roosevelt ignores the fact that the number of people voting has more than tripled since Roosevelt,
which renders the margin of victory in this election quite small in comparison, both in numbers and by percentage.
That Joe Biden "won by a landslide" or earned a "mandate" are bullchit claims by those of the left persuasion that cannot withstand any rational
scrutiny.
Here's the facts; draw your own conclusions:
Total Vote in 1944 - 47,631,000
Roosevelt 25,613,000 (53.4%)
Dewey 22,018,000 (45.9%)
Margin 3,595,000 (7.8%)
Total Vote in 2020 (as of 11/13/20) - 150,608,000
Biden 77,967,000 (50.9%)
Trump 72,641,000 (47.4%)
Margin 5,326,000 (3.5%)
Past elections:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1035992/winning-margins-...
[Edited on 11-14-2020 by Mr. Bills]
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | David, you forgot Arizona as well. And Georgia today as well. And BTW yes the president is declared by a vote of the electorial college, and who
decides those votes? that would be the states election boards, counting the votes of the people of that state.
as a practical matter - this is an Uber Mega landslide victory i base that on your orange overlords own definition: when he won the EC with 306 EC
voTes, and LOST the popular vote by 3 million - he declared it a landslide win!
Guess what, Biden gets 306, plus beats him in the popular vote by 5 million. that my election historical friends is a true landslide. The biggest
victory in a presidential election since Rosevelt.
I know many of you here are holding out for the faithless voter coup! because its really not about fair elections to many of you - right?
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well said caj. allow me to paraphrase the right after the 2016 loss by secretary Clinton. " get over it snowflakes, you lost!"
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"You don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows....."
Thanks, Bob 
Don't believe everything you think....
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I’d hate to run any organization, public or private, that has half the participants opposed to the agenda. Sure formula for major discontent as has
been demonstrated for the past four years and will continue for at least the next four, and probably beyond that.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador remains one of the few international leaders not to recognize Joe Biden's election win, saying it hasn't been "legally"
established. |
Which as far as I can determine, is true. Why are you (apparently) painting this as a problem?
If anything, aren't the rest of the international leaders jumping the gun? |
I think you're suggesting that they're doing this because that's the outcome they prefer. But the odds of overturning the results are so slim that
they feel confident they're congratulating the right man. The Right likes to compare this to the 2000 vote. That margin was 500 votes. There isn't a
state where Biden is leading by less than 10,000 votes.
Personally, I think that a similar approach should be used as state runoffs. If the margin is a certain number (%) then no recounting. Take the bitter
pill and live with it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
I think AMLO is resisting the temptation to let his ego and nationalistic pride, follow a path that could cause negative backlash for
his constituents, and I'm surprised that your neighbors don't see that.
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Sounds like smart neighbors.
AMLO doesn't care about his constituents. He offers the cartels an olive branch and peace rather than hunting them down. He's president in
name only. Spineless coward politician.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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soulpatch, I wouldn’t downplay your own education or judgement when comparing with others. As is abundantly clear if you look around you, there is
no shortage of “educated fools” and others educated far beyond their intelligence that are riding on their worthless credentials. Particularly
common in the political world.
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My brother from another madre -- soulpatch!!!!
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