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Quote; "Where is this place? (so I can avoid the prospect of awkward conversations between gringos about Mexican property law).  "
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You weren't anywhere near it. It is pretty much due west of La Paz, between Punta Conejo and Punta Marquez.
If you get down that far south, there are plenty of other cool spots to check out without getting into a private development.
[Edited on 7-14-2022 by AKgringo]
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"Listening more carefully, at around 19:30 they say they are on a beach northwest of Punta Colonet. They also mentioned the road to the beach was on
the 2020 Baja 1000 route. Thoughts?"
The closest beach access to the north of Punta Colonet (Cabo Colonet) is San Antonio Del Mar. It is a few miles west of Colonet. Lovely beaches there,
extending northward a couple miles. There is 4WD access southward, along the beach below the cliffs of Cabo Colonet. No idea about the current status,
as I haven't been back since the 1980s.
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WideAngle,
I did a little sleuthing on Google Earth. Can't resist a good puzzle, lol. Unable to match up the topography exactly. But I still suspect that their
camp was at, or near, the beaches at the northern end of San Antonio del Mar.
In the video, it seems that the low sand dunes of San Antonio del Mar are visible in the distance, to the south, with Cabo Colonet (aka: Punta
Colonet), the geographical feature, behind.
Then, a look at the 2020 Baja Mil course map showed the route passing near at approx. mile 110.
https://score-international.com/raceinfo/course-map-2020-baj...
There are numerous similar beaches to the one in the video as you can see by a close look on Google Earth. So, don't get too hung up about duplicating
their experience. You will find many, equally nice, camping areas. Here are some coordinates which may approximate what I saw in the video:
31° 7'28.94"N 116°18'30.14"W
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David K
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Where is this place? (so I can avoid the prospect of awkward conversations between gringos about Mexican property law).
Quote: Originally posted by David K  |
Good advice for the uninvited!
Playas Pacificas (at La Aguja) is a housing development, owned by a Baja Nomad husband and wife. They are very friendly to invited guests and have a
guest house near the big sand beach where they have hosted Mike Younghusband during his walk to Cabo with 'Don Kay' the burro (2011). I was also a
guest there for two nights during my Baja Bound mapping trips of 2017.
Uninvited guests onto their property are obviously not welcome. It is a private home area and they are watching out for the home owners, who may not
be there. www.playaspacificas.com |
On the left side of the peninsula:
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| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | | Camp Rene; stretch between LaBocana and Bahia Asuncion; Laguna Manuela; Punta Baja and a few miles south of there. |
Wilderone - how is the bay between Punta Baja and Punta San Antonio? When you say "a few miles south of there" how far into that bay are you
recommending?
Thanks!
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la chorera to punta colonet
What happened to your amigo and did you narrow down your July beach camping destinations? Asking for a friend. ; )
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| Quote: Originally posted by repentsinner | | Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | | Camp Rene; stretch between LaBocana and Bahia Asuncion; Laguna Manuela; Punta Baja and a few miles south of there. |
Wilderone - how is the bay between Punta Baja and Punta San Antonio? When you say "a few miles south of there" how far into that bay are you
recommending?
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I traveled that road twice... took photos if you want to check them out...
2005: https://vivabaja.com/p1205/
2014: https://vivabaja.com/trail-of-missions-1-helicopter-over-baj... (on page 2)
Map:
Yes, you can get from Punta San Antonio to Punta San Carlos.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Good advice for the uninvited!
Playas Pacificas (at La Aguja) is a housing development, owned by a Baja Nomad husband and wife. They are very friendly to invited guests and have a
guest house near the big sand beach where they have hosted Mike Younghusband during his walk to Cabo with 'Don Kay' the burro (2011). I was also a
guest there for two nights during my Baja Bound mapping trips of 2017.
Uninvited guests onto their property are obviously not welcome. It is a private home area and they are watching out for the home owners, who may not
be there. www.playaspacificas.com |
On the left side of the peninsula:
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Thanks for the mapping, it appears and I can confirm the area just south of the point you marked as La Aguja has a huge amount of non-gated public
beaches to enjoy, camp and surf at (Punta Marquez).
The Beckster: Gated, private roads into residential areas are best avoided unless you check first with the owners, I'd think. Or is there some law in
Mexico that guarantees access to others' private residences? What kind of "use" were you referring to?
[Edited on 7-17-2022 by JDCanuck]
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Rob took me to Punta Marquez and showed me the area... That was in 2017, so things change.
Photos on this page of my 2017 Trip page: https://vivabaja.com/p817/4/
[Edited on 7-17-2022 by David K]
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As always, thanks to DK for the maps.
That stretch between Punta Baja and San Antonio and San Carlos appears to remain an inaccessible 'lost coast' area. Must be one of the few left.
There must be some gems there for the discovering. What would it take to get in and out of that bit of coastline?
Boats? haha Are there no fishing camps along that hidden coast?
As for the Punta Marques south to Todos, I recall a surf spot X that could only be accessed by dune buggies or some other very capable sand vehicles.
I drove north of Todos one time as far as I could and ended up using the highway and washboard to Marques and exploring as far south as I could at the
time. I had a Ford 4wd at the time, but knew it had its limit.
I did spend a very cool night camped under some trees close to Marques where I could hang my hammock and chill for almost a day. It was a special
place that gave me more than I expected. I did leave that spot cleaner than I found it, as pack your trash was a primary consideration.
Even though it was out of ear shot of the ocean, it had a magic of its own that I soaked in while had the chance. I still have a couple of photos
somewhere of my overnight Baja discovery away from the ocean that will always be a 'find' to me.
This is Nomad at its finest when it chooses to be what brought us all here to begin with. Peace and love to Nomads of every stripe as we sure have
them of every stripe.
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Good points all Surfhat: A little respect for other users or owners goes a long way to enjoying continuing access to all those great spots. Thought
I'd add a bit of additional info on the area. There is now a motel with swimming pool built between Conquista Agraria and Punta Marquez. When I was
there last an RV Park/Campground and small restaurant/pub were being added. Only about 1 km off the end of pavement and the road to that point was
very wide and quite smooth. Another 4 km or so to the beaches and surfing at Punta Marquez. The road looping back inland from the north end of Punta
Marquez had been upgraded since the most recent Baja 1000, but as usual is being roughed up by use since. I found using the Punta Marquez route, altho
a bit longer, was much easier, more scenic and maybe just a bit faster than the more inland route through Ley Federal Reforma Dos shown on the map
David provided.
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A tip for anyone exploring that area
After you leave the pavement, it can be confusing sorting out which is the "main road". Following the most used roads dead ended at a couple of
ranches for me.
Traffic to and from the ranches and hwy 1 was greater than the traffic trying to pass through going north or south, so sometimes the lesser used road
is the one you want.
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Thanks Canuck. Having an alternate route to the paved highway north from Todos or south from Marquez would be preferable for what was once mostly
untouched by developers.
I have a couple of friends who moved from Pescadero and built homes in the Marquez area to get away from the peaceful lives they had had for decades
around Pescadero. I hope they found what they were looking for and wish them the best.
We had our moments camping at Punta Pescadero before and after the campground came in.
Treasure those moments. We all have them.
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | After you leave the pavement, it can be confusing sorting out which is the "main road". Following the most used roads dead ended at a couple of
ranches for me.
Traffic to and from the ranches and hwy 1 was greater than the traffic trying to pass through going north or south, so sometimes the lesser used road
is the one you want. |
For good or bad, traffic to Punta Marquez is increasing, so as long as you follow the new signage to the Playa at the end of the pavement and turn
left through Conquista the road to the surfing is the main one. I was surprised how many people even from up here on Vancouver Island knew of and had
camped out on Punta Marquez. I suspect it's about to see a surge in use now that the campground and motel are being developed.
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Good camping on the bluff at Punta Colonet’s Cueva del Pirata but you most likely won’t be alone.
Two dirt roads diverged in Baja and I, I took the one less graveled by......
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
I traveled that road twice... took photos if you want to check them out...
Yes, you can get from Punta San Antonio to Punta San Carlos. |
Thanks, very helpful!
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My pleasure. Feel free to ask any location questions!
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Re: "That stretch between Punta Baja and San Antonio and San Carlos appears to remain an inaccessible 'lost coast' area. Must be one of the few left."
Sorry for late reply - I was in the Caribbean - woo hoo - wonderful!!
Anyway, the dirt road there is mostly very good - I think used by smugglers - I only went as far as Agua Blanca (was hiking). A few dicey dips where
storm water flows past. You'd drive past cliffs that overlook the ocean - can't get to the beach. Got to a big arroyo that ends at the beach. Not
sure if you can drive into it - we were hiking and no problem for us - and then we had to get back on the road out of the arroyo to continue to Agua
Blanca. Beach access there - fish camp. Etc. Also, there are tons of indigenous artifacts everywhere, and I have learned of some dinosaur
excavations in the cliffs around there (some kind of giant bird). Take your time, be prepared for some road building along the way ( though if you
have something better than standard sedan shouldn't be much of a problem. Loved that stretch.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Maderita | "Listening more carefully, at around 19:30 they say they are on a beach northwest of Punta Colonet. They also mentioned the road to the beach was on
the 2020 Baja 1000 route. Thoughts?"
The closest beach access to the north of Punta Colonet (Cabo Colonet) is San Antonio Del Mar. It is a few miles west of Colonet. Lovely beaches there,
extending northward a couple miles. There is 4WD access southward, along the beach below the cliffs of Cabo Colonet. No idea about the current status,
as I haven't been back since the 1980s. |
harsh out there! been probably 15 years since i've been out to SADM, there's entire homes buried here....bring a shovel!
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the Bajabound boys met up with a couple adventurers hoofing it down to san carlos, unfortunately it doesn't follow them to their destination but a
nice film anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiO5J7yVpGk
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