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SFandH
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I've read in several places that is not true, or no longer true. The presumption of innocence until proven guilty principle is the law.
Here's a reference:
http://defensewiki.ibj.org/index.php/Mexico
search (ctrl-f) for "presumption of innocence".
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I've read in several places that is not true, or no longer true. The presumption of innocence until proven guilty principle is the law.
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Innocent until proven guilty was the GOAL maybe 10-15 years ago. It was part of the old Merida Initiative launched by Baby Bush and Calderon and
altered slightly by Obama.
Three billion dollars later (mostly spent on increased militarization in Mexico but also to train judges and prosecutors in this honorable GOAL) that
GOAL is still a long ways off. It's still mostly Better Call Saul and Better Call the Bank.
In fact, I remember reading an article a couple years back that intimated that physical means of persuasion during interrogation by the authorities
has increased because, well, a "confession" is proof of guilt. It's much easier to get a conviction this way than beating the bushes for "proof". The
proof was in the pounding, apparently. It's hard to get proof/make a case when witnesses are too afraid to testify.
Round up the usual suspects......hey, this one over here just "confessed"!
Of course, the usual suspects in gangs are often better armed than the police. AND they know where the cops family lives. And they know where the
prosecutors family lives.
That said, convictions and sentencing in Mexico are supposedly only in the neighbor of 8% of total crimes. In the US, I believe its in the 60% range.
Of course, this only covers crimes that are REPORTED. The percentage of UNREPORTED CRIME is very high.
Then, there are the thousands (yes, thousands!) each year who disappear/vanish/poof! in Mexico. Not technically a crime until such time as a body is
discovered. Many never are found.
I have to say that, of all the ultra-liberal friends/acquaintances that I have, Goat might be the only one of them who has an inkling of what the
situation is like down here. Most of my uber-liberal friends are always making excuses for the violence down here; usually saying the US is to blame
or crime in the US is worse than Mexico or some other ridiculous reason except the obvious one: criminal elements have basically taken over large
parts of the country in Mexico.
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hook | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
I've read in several places that is not true, or no longer true. The presumption of innocence until proven guilty principle is the law.
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Innocent until proven guilty was the GOAL maybe 10-15 years ago.... |
Thanks for the post. Too bad that it's situation normal, all effed up. Presumption of guilt until proven innocent. Vile, immoral.
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I saw the aftermath of this accident. We were driving from Abreojos south.
I think we were about 20-40 km outside Loreto heading south, looked in my rear view and saw 3 national guard cars behind me with lights on, slight
pucker. They blew by me. My first thought was there might be some sort of confrontation ahead. A little worrying.
The road where the accident occurred was relatively straight, maybe someone pulled out in front of the van and they tried to avoid it. Not sure.
Overcorrection after passing at a high rate of speed, again not sure. The van was about 50 yards off the road. Looked like if may have flipped
multiple times, maybe just once, no idea.
I told my wife to close her eyes as we got close. I am glad I did, the blur in the above photo was a person that was ejected. RIP.
I don't think I passed anyone the rest of the trip, as a matter of fact, I was passed by several trucks.
Baja roads are best to be taken slow and easy.
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I stand by what I said! The van driver is still in jail! The link below is to an interview with one of the survivors of the accident.
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/the-chosen-one-accident-sur...
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